Many of the Arab news stations want this war lost, and, to put it bluntly, lie like a rug. This has to be taken into account in all of this. Recent surveys show that many Iraqis are basically ignoring the TV news, realizing that it's largely bullshit. Interestingly, the Iraqis include pro-coalition news stations in this boycott.
The number of people here who blindly swallow news coming out of Iraq, even from the vaguest sources, is unnerving.
That there are accidents in targeting goes without saying, although I have no numbers. As we know, no intelligence is perfect, and discerning real information from Iraqi civilians from insurgent attempts to set the coalition up, can't be easy.
Obviously, it would be ludicrous to claim that no civilians are being injured or killed in these attacks. But the alternative that we are being presented with, that only civilians are being killed in these incidents, is equally unlikely, yet it's accepted. Why?
As I've pointed out before, going in with ground troops is no protection against collateral damage, and is far more risky for our side. America has lost many troops using on-the-ground and up-close tactics that spare as many civilians as possible, as opposed to tactics like carpet-bombing or worse, that destroy an enemy with little risk to ourselves. Something to keep in mind when Democrats brag about losing no Americans in Bosnia.
The last famous "wedding party" incident in western Iraq was documented by the military with displays of weapons, false passports, packages of currency, civilian clothing, barracks, and other items unlikely to figure prominently in a wedding. Even so, there was still enough evidence in the other direction that, as far as I know, that incident is still not closed.
The most recent attack in Fallujah (not the "wedding party" incident), described here, mentions secondary explosions that indicate weaponry stockpiles. This phenomenon has also showed up in many of these incidents.
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- If we're winning the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people.....
- ??
- Screw you Art we never liked you much anyway
- re:Revealing
- Who's the "we'? (n/t)
- The owners of the board (n/t)
- I had no real problems with him.
- You DA MAN, FrankC. DA MAN!
- You DA MAN, FrankC. DA MAN!
- For a change, a pretty good thread resurrected...
- What the CIA, Mao and some others say about this. And they all agree.
- Almost all of our target information comes from Iraqis.
- Where Do You Think We Keep Getting Target Info From?
- and what percentage of that target info has proven false?
- Too bad it's not good data, isn't it?
- Perhaps you are really responding to agenda driven enws reporting?