Havnig a blessing before a game is oppression?

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Havnig a blessing before a game is oppression?

ebnelson — 10/18/2004 7:14:42 PM (archived)

Bunk.
Suppressing the free excercise of speech because some find it offensive is oppression.
The seperation was to prevent the state from imposing religious taxes and laws to support a church. Not to suppress people from expressing themselves.
That the version of the law you support is popular right now in the US is an historical oddity and will pass.
To suggest that a public invocation before a game or graduation is oppression defies common sense. It is called freedom and tolerance, both of which have been in decline since the court started deciding what people can or cannot say in public.
Ed

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Republicans Admit Mailing Campaign Literature Saying Liberals Will Ban the Bible - Chris Vancil - 10/15/2004 8:49:17 AM
- What the religious should consider - Art Martin - 10/19/2004 6:41:38 PM
- And what has the ACLU successfully done? - ebnelson - 10/15/2004 2:29:00 PM
  - It's a lie, Ed. Last time I went to church there was a bible, and in the last Hilton I was in and in my dentists office (who is a Buddhist, btw.) ACLU has nothing to do with this lie. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/15/2004 10:05:51 PM
    - Read for content: The ACLU has sued to have the courts censor public display and discussion of ideas with religious content. - ebnelson - 10/16/2004 3:59:44 PM
      - re: Do you know what the bible is? A lie is a lie. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/16/2004 7:59:05 PM
        
        re: My public library has several copies of the bible. (above mentioned lie is that of the RNC not the bible) (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/16/2004 8:01:26 PM
    - So which Hilton were you in, Nicky or Paris? (n/t) - Art Martin - 10/15/2004 11:35:39 PM
      - re: So what's your middle name, Art? - Mary Anne - 10/16/2004 2:30:36 AM
        
        re: So what's your middle name, Art? - Art Martin - 10/17/2004 7:07:19 AM
  - ACLU has no party affiliation - Art Martin - 10/15/2004 9:15:09 PM
    - You are of course kidding. - ebnelson - 10/15/2004 9:35:40 PM
      - You do know they can't pass law right? - Art Martin - 10/15/2004 11:01:41 PM
        
        With activist judges married to ACLU lawyers, they don't need to. - ebnelson - 10/16/2004 3:28:26 PM
  - The ACLU has banned all public displays of religion in the country, you say? What country would that be? - Mary Anne - 10/15/2004 3:38:17 PM
    - If that is all the ACLU had done, no. - ebnelson - 10/15/2004 4:30:05 PM
      - Yes, that's exactly what the ACLU has done. - Mary Anne - 10/15/2004 5:11:40 PM
        
        The religious expression you refer to are strictly private - ebnelson - 10/15/2004 8:18:04 PM
        
        As they should be. Religion is private. But they aren't all hidden. - Mary Anne - 10/16/2004 2:22:11 AM
        
        YOu read at least as much as anyone here. You know the agenda is progressing far into censorship and ahs in fact done so. - ebnelson - 10/16/2004 4:09:11 PM
        
        You obviously have no idea what it means to separate church and state. - Mary Anne - 10/16/2004 4:35:28 PM
        
        Havnig a blessing before a game is oppression? - ebnelson - 10/18/2004 7:14:42 PM
        
        What about the freedom of the minority and tolerance of their religious beliefs? Do people only count if they're part of the majority? - Mary Anne - 10/19/2004 5:00:05 AM
        
        re: What about the freedom of the minority and tolerance of their religious beliefs? Do people only count if they're part of the majority? - gbaikie - 10/19/2004 11:29:53 AM
        
        Public vs. private, required vs. optional, and the conservation of identity in an inhospitable environment, or, Why do you think the Jews wanted Israel to be a Jewish state? - Mary Anne - 10/19/2004 1:45:38 PM
        
        re: Public vs. private, required vs. optional, and the conservation of identity in an inhospitable environment, or, Why do you think the Jews wanted Israel to be a Jewish state? - gbaikie - 10/20/2004 12:56:34 AM
        
        I haven't been a member of any organized religion since 1974. - Mary Anne - 10/20/2004 11:45:32 AM
        
        I'm With Mary Anne 100% On This One - Mark Eby - 10/17/2004 2:22:42 AM

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