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The Federal rules are detailed, but not overly so.

Mary Anne — 10/23/2004 1:13:47 AM (archived)

I find it distressing that the driver's license is the standard of full citizenship. Not everyone can drive, and not everyone wants to.

A national ID card idea has been floated for many years. This testimony before the House of Representatives by Gregory T. Nojeim of the ACLU dates from 1998. He speaks of a suggested national ID card very much like the one being discussed here. It has nothing to do, obviously, with the 2000 election, and everything to do with a lively traffic in counterfeit driver's licenses for illegal workers and others. As it happens, many of the 911 terrorists had fake driver's licenses.

I'm not crazy about a national ID card, but if the licenses issued by the states have such widely varying dependability, and if the lack of standards will keep non-drivers with non-driver photo ID from their full prerogatives as citizens, maybe it's time to look at it again.

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What is it about the Provisional Ballots? - ebnelson - 10/20/2004 3:02:06 PM
- I like the following system: - David F Mayer - 10/24/2004 2:03:11 AM
- Provisional ballots are for people with possibly valid registrations. - Mary Anne - 10/20/2004 11:06:31 PM
  - But a federal judge ni Michigan has ordered the ballots to be counted, not held or investigated. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/21/2004 2:01:22 PM
    - Your information is incomplete - Mary Anne - 10/22/2004 7:25:17 PM
- The perfect voting machine - FrankC - 10/20/2004 9:43:49 PM
  - re: The perfect voting machine - Publius - 10/21/2004 2:12:20 PM
  - LOL! Thanks, Frank... (n/t) - Mary Anne - 10/20/2004 9:53:55 PM
- What is wrong with using the electric ballot? - REB - 10/20/2004 8:17:21 PM
  - re: People don't trust Electronic machines, and the Democrats are playing on fear (again) - Scott Evil - 10/20/2004 9:10:07 PM
    - Paper receipts - Tom Brosz - 10/20/2004 10:22:16 PM
      - No Paper receipts backup, no electronic voting - phil - 10/21/2004 2:58:31 PM
        
        re: It may be time to put pictures, SS #'s and other identifying info on voter ID cards. - Scott Evil - 10/21/2004 5:18:34 PM
        
        Drivers License is all they need - REB - 10/22/2004 4:55:04 PM
        
        Not everyone can get a driver's license. - Mary Anne - 10/22/2004 6:59:52 PM
        
        And why would dead people, illegals, or pets need them? (n/t) - Lee - 10/24/2004 2:40:34 AM
        
        ID requirements - Tom Brosz - 10/23/2004 12:12:40 AM
        
        The Federal rules are detailed, but not overly so. - Mary Anne - 10/23/2004 1:13:47 AM
        
        footnote - Fox - 10/24/2004 2:54:45 AM
        
        P.S. National ID Cards - Tom Brosz - 10/23/2004 5:22:22 AM
        
        Did you see any of those state ID requirements that demanded a drivers license? - Tom Brosz - 10/23/2004 5:13:40 AM
        
        No. But I know for a fact that the state ID requirements are so all over the map that the Feds won't accept them. - Mary Anne - 10/23/2004 11:23:54 AM
        
        re: state ID requirements - Tom Brosz - 10/23/2004 5:14:23 PM
    - Character assassination (n/t) - Mary Anne - 10/20/2004 9:24:48 PM
- re: Democrats desire Anarchy - Scott Evil - 10/20/2004 4:58:33 PM
  - Character assassination redux - Mary Anne - 10/20/2004 11:23:06 PM
    - re: Don't eliminate absentee balloting, but at least require the ballots to be noterized. - Scott Evil - 10/21/2004 1:19:52 PM
      - Ridiculous - Fox - 10/24/2004 3:03:46 AM
    - Exercise of franchise - Tom Brosz - 10/21/2004 2:34:05 AM
    - Obstructionists is a better term. - Lee - 10/21/2004 2:31:53 AM
  - I understand the concern. I hope posters here from all sides will address this. - ebnelson - 10/20/2004 6:59:11 PM

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