P.S. National ID Cards

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P.S. National ID Cards

Tom Brosz — 10/23/2004 5:22:22 AM (archived)

While they would help solve a host of immigration, security, and other problems, the concept just rubs me completely the wrong way. Franklin had something to say about trading security for freedom, and I think he had a point.

Unfortunately, the horse has pretty much left the barn on this one. Count up the places that demand your Social Security number just to deal with them. Sure, you can live in a tree and pay cash for everything if you don't want to cough up the digits.

The original proponents of Social Security promised the number would never, ever be used this way. My first card said so right on the face.

When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is not far away. It is time to go elsewhere. The best thing about space travel is that it made it possible to go elsewhere.

- Robert A. Heinlein, "Notebooks of Lazarus Long"

Why the hell does everyone think I'm in this business?

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What is it about the Provisional Ballots? - ebnelson - 10/20/2004 3:02:06 PM
- I like the following system: - David F Mayer - 10/24/2004 2:03:11 AM
- Provisional ballots are for people with possibly valid registrations. - Mary Anne - 10/20/2004 11:06:31 PM
  - But a federal judge ni Michigan has ordered the ballots to be counted, not held or investigated. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/21/2004 2:01:22 PM
    - Your information is incomplete - Mary Anne - 10/22/2004 7:25:17 PM
- The perfect voting machine - FrankC - 10/20/2004 9:43:49 PM
  - re: The perfect voting machine - Publius - 10/21/2004 2:12:20 PM
  - LOL! Thanks, Frank... (n/t) - Mary Anne - 10/20/2004 9:53:55 PM
- What is wrong with using the electric ballot? - REB - 10/20/2004 8:17:21 PM
  - re: People don't trust Electronic machines, and the Democrats are playing on fear (again) - Scott Evil - 10/20/2004 9:10:07 PM
    - Paper receipts - Tom Brosz - 10/20/2004 10:22:16 PM
      - No Paper receipts backup, no electronic voting - phil - 10/21/2004 2:58:31 PM
        
        re: It may be time to put pictures, SS #'s and other identifying info on voter ID cards. - Scott Evil - 10/21/2004 5:18:34 PM
        
        Drivers License is all they need - REB - 10/22/2004 4:55:04 PM
        
        Not everyone can get a driver's license. - Mary Anne - 10/22/2004 6:59:52 PM
        
        And why would dead people, illegals, or pets need them? (n/t) - Lee - 10/24/2004 2:40:34 AM
        
        ID requirements - Tom Brosz - 10/23/2004 12:12:40 AM
        
        The Federal rules are detailed, but not overly so. - Mary Anne - 10/23/2004 1:13:47 AM
        
        footnote - Fox - 10/24/2004 2:54:45 AM
        
        P.S. National ID Cards - Tom Brosz - 10/23/2004 5:22:22 AM
        
        Did you see any of those state ID requirements that demanded a drivers license? - Tom Brosz - 10/23/2004 5:13:40 AM
        
        No. But I know for a fact that the state ID requirements are so all over the map that the Feds won't accept them. - Mary Anne - 10/23/2004 11:23:54 AM
        
        re: state ID requirements - Tom Brosz - 10/23/2004 5:14:23 PM
    - Character assassination (n/t) - Mary Anne - 10/20/2004 9:24:48 PM
- re: Democrats desire Anarchy - Scott Evil - 10/20/2004 4:58:33 PM
  - Character assassination redux - Mary Anne - 10/20/2004 11:23:06 PM
    - re: Don't eliminate absentee balloting, but at least require the ballots to be noterized. - Scott Evil - 10/21/2004 1:19:52 PM
      - Ridiculous - Fox - 10/24/2004 3:03:46 AM
    - Exercise of franchise - Tom Brosz - 10/21/2004 2:34:05 AM
    - Obstructionists is a better term. - Lee - 10/21/2004 2:31:53 AM
  - I understand the concern. I hope posters here from all sides will address this. - ebnelson - 10/20/2004 6:59:11 PM

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