I'm not sure that the example you list...

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I'm not sure that the example you list...

alcaray — 10/3/2006 6:24:36 PM (archived)

...(of Iraq and Afganistan) show that there's a flaw in democracy. Right now, if the United States were to decree that all citizens of all countries must accept a free ice cream cone on our dime, most countries would refuse. People need to determine their own governments. And people don't like to be pushed around by the US.

I think constitutional democracy is superior, and that given time people will see this and move towards it on their own.

Just about time for you to bring up Japan, so let me defuse that: the Japanese are incredibly disciplined and complient citizens. What worked there would not work in very many places. Also in Japan, the country was wasted. I don't have numbers, but the male population must have been a tiny percentage of what it should be. It was a very special case.

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Why? - Bowser - 9/24/2006 7:03:09 PM
- re: Why? - Jim Dandy - 3/28/2009 1:13:15 AM
- A question directed at conservatives. NONE answered. - Bowser - 9/25/2006 9:17:09 PM
  - They've gotten their asses kicked in here to many times - azstrummer - 9/26/2006 12:09:55 AM
    - Asked and answered, your honor - FrankC - 9/26/2006 2:25:40 AM
      - It's only a partial ass-kicking, I'd say - Robert - 9/26/2006 4:53:28 PM
        
        Radicals - FrankC - 9/26/2006 6:33:27 PM
        
        "the Government should fear the people" - Robert - 9/26/2006 8:39:21 PM
        
        Hmmm, The Confederacy reborn - FrankC - 9/26/2006 8:58:25 PM
        
        I could live with it - Robert - 9/28/2006 10:33:58 PM
        
        So are you Robert... - Lee - 9/30/2006 6:43:01 AM
        
        I'm not sure our world is big enough - FrankC - 9/30/2006 2:22:06 AM
        
        re: I'm not sure our world is big enough - Robert - 9/30/2006 8:15:10 PM
        
        One world government - Tom Brosz - 10/1/2006 2:34:16 AM
        
        Planetary Federalism - Robert - 10/1/2006 2:47:13 AM
        
        And on representative democracy... - Tom Brosz - 10/2/2006 4:07:54 AM
        
        re: And on representative democracy... - Robert - 10/4/2006 4:53:01 PM
        
        I'm not sure that the example you list... - alcaray - 10/3/2006 6:24:36 PM
        
        Key word: "constitutional." - Tom Brosz - 10/3/2006 6:59:31 PM
        
        re: Key word: "constitutional." - azstrummer - 10/3/2006 11:43:53 PM
        
        National shame - Tom Brosz - 10/4/2006 12:24:51 AM
        
        re: National shame - azstrummer - 10/4/2006 3:27:14 PM
        
        re: Planetary Federalism - Tom Brosz - 10/2/2006 3:47:50 AM
        
        re: Planetary Federalism - Robert - 10/3/2006 1:38:32 AM
        
        Feel better. - Tom Brosz - 10/3/2006 4:08:04 AM
        
        Gee Frank, you're sounding a lot like me. - Lee - 9/30/2006 6:34:30 AM
        
        re: Gee Frank, you're sounding a lot like me. - FrankC - 10/1/2006 2:27:33 AM
        
        You could? I couldn't. - Mary Anne - 9/29/2006 1:49:40 PM
        
        Sure ya could - Robert - 9/29/2006 4:46:04 PM
        
        Sounds like giving up - azstrummer - 9/29/2006 7:08:26 PM
        
        Nah - Robert - 9/29/2006 10:22:25 PM
        
        You da man.... (n/t) - azstrummer - 9/29/2006 11:35:53 PM
        
        re: Sounds like giving up - REB - 9/29/2006 9:26:19 PM
        
        Pleasantly suprised - azstrummer - 9/26/2006 10:55:14 PM
      - The question was WHY? Got an answer? (n/t) - Bowser - 9/26/2006 4:39:58 AM
        
        Why? - FrankC - 9/26/2006 6:24:41 AM
        
        I'm with Frank: Why what, Bowser? - alcaray - 9/26/2006 5:11:05 PM
        
        " our unsatisfactory situation in Iraq is due to piss poor planning and blunders by Bush and company." - Lindy - 9/26/2006 2:47:25 PM
        
        You seem to get confused very easily. And often. - Bowser - 9/26/2006 6:41:29 AM
        
        Me confused? - FrankC - 9/26/2006 7:27:52 AM
      - Just strike me down Sire!..... (n/t) - RobVG - 9/26/2006 2:32:36 AM
        
        Illegitimi Non Carborundum :) (n/t) - FrankC - 9/26/2006 3:04:33 AM
    - It's hard to fight with one hand tied behind your back... - RobVG - 9/26/2006 12:15:52 AM
      - C'mon over.......the water's fine - Lindy - 9/26/2006 1:16:48 AM
        
        Can't, quite, capitulate.... - RobVG - 9/26/2006 2:17:14 AM
        
        re: Can't, quite, capitulate.... - azstrummer - 9/26/2006 11:05:54 PM
        
        re: Can't, quite, capitulate.... - Lindy - 9/26/2006 2:46:24 PM
- No matter how this turns out, they'll find a way to blame it all on the liberals. (n/t) - cjburke - 9/24/2006 7:20:08 PM
  - Only if no one bothers to ask the question, "Who's in charge here?" (n/t) - Mary Anne - 9/24/2006 7:53:53 PM

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