The new Space/Science mods are grappling with how to handle the topic of global warming, because so often what's been discussed on SS really isn't the science of global warming so much as the politics surrounding the science of global warming.
I've had some fruitless arguments with Tom over political bias and corporate influence, on Space/Science where, on second thought, I'm not sure it was appropriate. If an instance comes to light in which it's proven that scientific results were falsified, that'd be one thing, and be a topic relevant to a Science board; but speculating about the motives of various groups of researchers very probably belongs on CE (or on Flame) because the positions are guaranteed to be political.
When you said "The place for the lithified braincases to gripe aganst the reality of the situation is here", I can understand why Tom sarcastically recast it as "Pro-human-caused-warming, Space Board. Objections? Flame Board". There's a grain of truth in that complaint (tho' I'd never endorse Tom's reflexive hyperbole). Understand, even though it's well-known that I personally agree with you about the battle lines and agendae, in fairness I can see how statements like that blow up inside a "lithified braincase" into offense. That's how we get fruitless political arguments on the science board.
You're right about the broader political and social context, yet saying so on Space/Science can only lead to flaming; it can't ever lead to resolution, in the scientific sense, because it's not really about the science.
Whatta we got so far here? gb took it seriously and made a serious reply. SDAI-Tech1 did an SDAI-Tech1. A few flames, and discussion about whether it belongs on Flame.
Which pretty much describes most discussions on the topic of global warming. Ya know, this is a pretty dreary topic most of the time, when you think about it. It doesn't bring the best out of people, and just spreads the political toxins to places like Space/Science. I'd call it a toxic topic, and if the mods feel the need to wear gloves and treat it like hazmat, I can sympathize.
Flame » in reply to That's BS...
A couple of pennies tossed in the fountain o'flame
The whole thread (55 posts)
- Global warming is nonsense
- Note to FrankC: your call on this one.
- I find myself wanting to say...
- re: I find myself wanting to say...
- I find myself watning to say Global Warming is Nonsense
- The notion appeals to me
- That's BS...
- A couple of pennies tossed in the fountain o'flame
- I've no issues with how climate science posts have been handled at Space.
- Interesting thread
- Give it time
- An honest discussion would admit current CO2 levels are actually ~380ppm.
- Then CO2's effect on temperature is even less
- AND your scientific credentials are....?
- You might want to finish the reference paper I linked. (n/t)
- Then CO2's effect on temperature is even less
- Like I said
- Pro-human-caused-warming, Space Board. Objections? Flame Board.
- Rational debate:- Space Board. Name-calling:- Flame Board. (n/t)
- Science based debate, Space Board. Limbaugh-CEI subjective regurge. Flame Board. (n/t)
- As far as I can tell from what EP said, then you added the human-caused clause to what he said.
- A couple of pennies tossed in the fountain o'flame
- That's BS...
- The notion appeals to me
- I find myself wanting to say...
- re: Global warming is nonsense
- re: Global warming is nonsense
- Do you try to be controvercial so people will interact with you?
- Note to FrankC: your call on this one.
