Makes one long for the era of the city state.

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Makes one long for the era of the city state.

Lee — 4/19/2007 8:44:58 PM (archived)

City states are political compacts. Social contracts signed by every person who wishes to become a member of that particular society and a part of the body politic. When becoming a citizen of a particular community, an oath is taken and a certain set of behaviors are sworn to. It's very similar to neighborhood associations. People abide by the rules and norms of that community or are banished from it.

If the contract is broken by an individual, they can be expelled from that community. Sent into exile and banned from returning. This individual is then free to roam and find another community whos rules are more in line with their own beliefs and attitudes. In this way social norms are enforced not by coercion or laws, but by a personal moral code and a desire to belong to that particular community.

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Why Americans murder each other. - ER - 4/19/2007 4:13:30 AM
- Lots of truth there - FrankC - 4/19/2007 7:17:57 PM
- Simple answer: tolerate - Raoul - 4/19/2007 6:34:32 PM
- "So much death. What can men do against such reckless hate?" - REB - 4/19/2007 5:34:31 PM
  - Makes one long for the era of the city state. - Lee - 4/19/2007 8:44:58 PM
- Another POV, from a 20-something source (long) - Mary Anne - 4/19/2007 2:32:34 PM
  - Cultural and psychological anchor points. - TB - 4/19/2007 6:14:49 PM
    - Only in a one-religion town. - Mary Anne - 4/19/2007 6:56:04 PM
      - re: Only in a one-religion town. - TB - 4/19/2007 8:46:23 PM
        
        I heard that growing up. - Mary Anne - 4/19/2007 9:20:59 PM
        
        Where I go to church, nobody checks your credentials at the door. - TB - 4/19/2007 9:39:54 PM
        
        re: Where I go to church...... - Lindy - 4/20/2007 12:39:09 AM
        
        Lindy, who set off the bombs yesterday in Baghdad? - Lee - 4/20/2007 2:56:38 AM
        
        The people who set off the bombs yesterday in Baghdad.... - Lindy - 4/20/2007 3:18:08 AM
        
        They didn't have to bomb anything. - Lee - 4/20/2007 6:21:50 AM
        
        " What they're doing now is a scorched earth policy born out of revenge. " - Lindy - 4/20/2007 2:31:19 PM
        
        And I'm saying there were. - Lee - 4/20/2007 4:00:46 PM
        
        Who is actually killing all the Iraqis does seem to escape a lot of people. - TB - 4/20/2007 3:14:31 AM
        
        "The issue of whether or not Christians can fight in wars...... - Lindy - 4/20/2007 3:20:32 AM
        
        Lindy... - TB - 4/20/2007 3:56:19 AM
        
        I don't have to "think" about it. - Lindy - 4/20/2007 2:38:01 PM
        
        "I don't have to 'think' about it, I know." - TB - 4/20/2007 8:23:17 PM
  - Interesting post - Lindy - 4/19/2007 4:30:38 PM
  - Good Points, MA - ER - 4/19/2007 2:56:25 PM
- re: Why Americans murder each other. - TB - 4/19/2007 5:24:46 AM
  - ABSOLUTELY, TB. - Jody - 4/19/2007 1:29:37 PM
    - And,,, - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/19/2007 1:35:18 PM
      - But... - Jody - 4/19/2007 1:51:17 PM
  - Typical authoritarian behavior - ER - 4/19/2007 11:21:11 AM
    - Yeah, stoner culture is something we really need to condone. - Lee - 4/19/2007 2:11:44 PM
      - Hmmmph..and bigotry culture is something we really need to condone (n/t) - Jody - 4/19/2007 5:38:05 PM
      - Missing the point. Think: Prohibition. - Mary Anne - 4/19/2007 3:07:03 PM
        
        And alcohol and tobacco manufacturers are death merchants. - Lee - 4/19/2007 7:13:10 PM
        
        So is Stinkin' Thinkin', Lee (n/t) - Jody - 4/19/2007 8:34:11 PM
        
        You can't solve health problems by making them crimes. - Mary Anne - 4/19/2007 7:24:11 PM
        
        So do power drills and nail guns. - Lee - 4/19/2007 8:11:03 PM
        
        Will you listen to yourself? - Mary Anne - 4/19/2007 10:00:36 PM
        
        The very use of a mind altering substance impairs responsible thinking. - Lee - 4/19/2007 10:06:17 PM
        
        Water is a mind altering substance (n/t) - LS - 4/20/2007 4:00:52 PM
      - Most of my friends are or were stoners. - ER - 4/19/2007 3:05:50 PM
        
        Yeah, I figured that by your comments. - Lee - 4/19/2007 6:59:00 PM
        
        Yeah, but it cured me of my racism. (n/t) - ER - 4/19/2007 8:04:32 PM
        
        re: Yeah, but it cured me of my racism. - Lindy - 4/19/2007 9:13:23 PM
        
        Yeah, drug dens will serve anyone. - Lee - 4/19/2007 9:56:39 PM
        
        See, it does cause brain damage. ;) (n/t) - Lee - 4/19/2007 8:26:33 PM
        
        So what is your excuse, Lee? (n/t) - Jody - 4/19/2007 8:44:11 PM
        
        Excuse? - Lee - 4/19/2007 8:53:55 PM
        
        Interesting answer...and it speaks volumes (n/t) - Jody - 4/20/2007 3:20:23 AM
        
        Yes it does - Lee - 4/20/2007 6:29:57 AM
        
        Oh Lee...tsk tsk...what a young soul you are (n/t) - Jody - 4/20/2007 6:53:51 AM
        
        Tell us Lee, do you ever drink? - Lindy - 4/19/2007 7:27:50 PM
        
        I am sure you will find a flask... - Arrell - 4/20/2007 1:47:09 PM
        
        Hate to disappoint you - Lee - 4/20/2007 4:05:07 PM
        
        No I don't - Lee - 4/19/2007 8:25:33 PM
        
        Gee, Lee...ya think?....hmmmm..kids are watching, eh?..WELL..they also have EARS!!!!!!! (n/t) - Jody - 4/19/2007 8:29:04 PM
        
        re: Most of my friends are or were stoners. - Lindy - 4/19/2007 4:40:08 PM
        
        re: Most of my friends are or were stoners. - REB - 4/19/2007 3:21:41 PM
    - re: Typical authoritarian behavior - SDF - 4/19/2007 11:52:47 AM
      - Even if everything you say is true, - ER - 4/19/2007 2:02:36 PM
        
        If my suggestions were successful - SDF - 4/19/2007 5:32:59 PM

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