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Sorry, losing track of the goalposts again.
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I think the best thing we can hope for is a quasi-stable Iraq whose sectarian violence and civil war never exceeds a certain flashpoint while it burns itself out over the next 20 years.

Interestingly, the same situation you describe has been considered an enormous success in Bosnia.

The whole "civil war" meme largely ignores who's doing the killing and who the targets have been.

If we get to the point where casualties become nil (not yet), nobody will care whether we have troops in Iraq any more than they cared about having twice as many troops in Europe for decades.

Political progress will take time. Some progress has been made, more needs to be made.

That the surge worked, by which I mean the new counterinsurgency strategy, not just the new troops, is quite obvious. What's odd is how badly it chaps so many asses in some places.

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