"Interestingly, the same situation you describe has been considered an enormous success in Bosnia."
Yes, but Bosnia wasn't a meat grinder for our troops. Bosnia didn't cost trillions. Bosnia didn't go on for 20 years. Bosnia didn't worsen our international standing or bring further unrest and instability to the area we depend on for oil. Bosnia included a real international coalition.
But, aside form those small points- perfect analogy Brosz. Warn me next time you cook up another one of those, so I can pinch my nose or leave the room.
The whole "civil war" meme largely ignores who's doing the killing and who the targets have been.
When one ethnic sect with vested political control is at war against another ethnic sect who wants vested political control. Thats called a: __________
Use google. I'll wait. No, really.
If we get to the point where casualties become nil (not yet), nobody will care whether we have troops in Iraq any more than they cared about having twice as many troops in Europe for decades.
And you have an adjustable mortgage to sell me too?
And who is it that is moving the goal posts now?
"Political progress will take time. Some progress has been made, more needs to be made."
How much time? How many deadlines have passed? What is this progress?
"That the surge worked, by which I mean [....]"
Oh my god- you just did it again, in the middle of your own post. You don't see it, do you?
Yeti
Current Events » in reply to Sorry, losing track of the goalposts again.
re:then stop moving them around every week.
The whole thread (55 posts)
- "The three trillion dollar war."
- The last paradigm shift: "The victory won't be worth the money."
- O come on. We've been giving you crud about the cost since...
- Paradigm shifts suck, don't they?
- You're stuck too.
- No, its about a lot more than the money, its about the cost...
- you didnt answer the question: 'was it worth it'? (n/t)
- Policial Progress was not a goalpost shift.
- re: there's not one of them that isn't almost identical to something that could have been written a year ago. Maybe two.
- You're stuck too.
- Who said anything about victory?
- Learn your history
- WW II .........Last Proper WAR
- Rope-a-dope
- re: Rope-a-dope
- Our tactical successes have yielded no strategic benefits.
- NEWSFLASH!!!NEWSFLASH!!!NEWSFLASH!!!
- Well, you certainly got the "nobody cares" right.
- I know who Cordesman is, as well I know what the CSIS is.
- re: I know who Cordesman is, as well I know what the CSIS is.
- MAYBE, when trying to determine a group' s bias, you should look at more than their own site and a wikipedia entry they wrote...
- time required to read gbaikie's worthless post: 10 seconds, search time to verify that csis Is a right wing think-tank: 1 minute 35 seconds, showing- yet again- that gbaikie is an unthinking politica…
- re: I know who Cordesman is, as well I know what the CSIS is.
- I know who Cordesman is, as well I know what the CSIS is.
- Well, you certainly got the "nobody cares" right.
- re: Rope-a-dope
- Rope-a-dope
- WW II .........Last Proper WAR
- The last paradigm shift: "The victory won't be worth the money."
