First off, you have no idea of the impact hazard. None. Zero. So your estimates of cost effectiveness have no factual basis.
Morrison's low estimate of the cometary impact hazard has been thoroughly discredited by field geologists.
As far as CAPS goes, it was designed by a skilled team of engineers at NASA Langley.
The Chinese engineers appear to think its pretty good.
As far as my owsn skillls go, what I have done as a historian is to compare space architectures. In point of facxt, I inteerviewed many of the Soviet scientists who actually bent metal on manned Mars missions. But since you don't have any respect for that, here's the simple demonstrated facts:
The proper comparison is between Zubrin as an engineer and Musk's engineers, not Zubrin and Musk.
As far as Zubrin's engineering skills go, they're a joke, as anyone who has worked with him actually bending metal will tell you.
His Mars architecture simply will not achieve its goals, as its crew will be dead long before they get to Mars, little less return.
Check his radiation shielding and life support estimates. They're impossibly low.
As far as NASA "adapting" Zubrin's architecture, Griffin's engineering was so bad that he spent $3 billion on the Ares 1, a launcher whose combustion oscillations will leave its crew brain damaged, 100% percent of the time.
The Ares 5 is just as good a design.
Dr. Aldrin favors the DIRECT launch architecture for immediate developmetn, and his cyclers are the best architecture for manned Mars missions.
As far as Musk's engineers go, they have developed the lowest cost launcher, and DoD and NASA contracted with them for services.
Based on your posts, we know that you're a fantasist obsessed with Mars, and that's why none of this ever sinks in. Ever.
The advantage that you have is that I refuse to attack all manned Mars flight. But I do have priorities for the space budget that include manned Mars flight only at a much later date, after other much more pressing matters have been taken care of.
Griffin ignored the George Brown Jr ammendment, and he's gone.
Good riddance.
Space/Science » in reply to You're Not An Engineer So Stop Pretending You Have A Clue About Engineering
Evading the evidence, and throw in a personal attack
The whole thread (30 posts)
- SpaceX founder dreams of colonizing Mars
- re: SpaceX founder dreams of colonizing Mars
- You left out the Moon again (n/t)
- There's a big difference between Musk and Zubrin
- You're Not An Engineer So Stop Pretending You Have A Clue About Engineering
- Evading the evidence, and throw in a personal attack
- Just The Facts
- Just The Facts
- Do You Ever Bother To Get Facts Straight?
- On this one, yeah
- Let's See If Taking It one Item At a Time Will be Simple Enough For You
- Let's See If Taking It one Item At a Time Will be Simple Enough For You
- [OK, Guys, simmer down]
- Let's See If Taking It one Item At a Time Will be Simple Enough For You
- On this one, yeah
- Do You Ever Bother To Get Facts Straight?
- Just The Facts
- Just The Facts
- Evading the evidence, and throw in a personal attack
- You're Not An Engineer So Stop Pretending You Have A Clue About Engineering
