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What recommendations?

Odin — 3/30/2004 9:11:28 PM (archived)

We dunno cuz they haven't been declassified. According to Clarke, they were implemented after 9-11 (hard to imagine Rice, et al not setting the record straight if that isn't true) so it's reasonable to assume the recommendations were prudent steps that shoulda been taken.

At this point, Frum can't show those recommendations were held up by confirmation delays. According to Woodward, Bush said he didn't consider Al Qaeda terrorism an urgent matter. News stories have reported that Clarke and Tenet stressed the urgency in the days and months before 9-11, so how is it Democrats' fault that Bush discounted the warnings and failed to act? Did Bush not have the needed personnel in place in the summer of 2001?

Frum's sophistry is easily recognized as garbage by anyone who's following the story. How is it that you believe it's worth spreading?

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Seven new NATO members - Tom Brosz - 3/30/2004 5:31:07 AM
- It should have zero members. - Lee - 3/30/2004 6:49:57 AM
- re: Seven new NATO members - Bowser - 3/30/2004 5:55:47 AM
  - Your own post says it all. - Tom Brosz - 3/30/2004 6:35:47 AM
    - re: Your own post says it all. - Davin L. - 3/30/2004 3:45:26 PM
      - PS We do have a flame board. - RobVG - 3/30/2004 6:55:15 PM
        
        Not a flame, as such. - Tom Brosz - 3/30/2004 7:46:16 PM
        
        LOL - Davin L. - 3/30/2004 8:53:01 PM
        
        Still waiting Tom: have you or have you not read Clarkes book and/or testimony? - Davin L. - 3/31/2004 4:10:48 PM
        
        I've read the testimony. I haven't read the book. - Tom Brosz - 4/1/2004 1:17:47 AM
        
        re: I've read the testimony. I haven't read the book. - Davin L - 4/1/2004 4:36:05 AM
        
        And my post didn't belong there AND you are showing a gross double standard! - Davin L. - 3/30/2004 7:03:12 PM
        
        Clever. - RobVG - 3/30/2004 9:17:47 PM
        
        Flaky, contemptuous double-standard. Color him maroon. - Bowser - 3/31/2004 3:28:13 AM
        
        Where's my BB gun? - RobVG - 3/31/2004 3:43:28 AM
        
        Turn on a light, face a mirror, and feel around. - Bowser - 3/31/2004 3:48:39 AM
        
        Oh! Damn it! Look what I've stepped in. - RobVG - 3/31/2004 4:06:09 AM
        
        Thanks. It really wasn't personal. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/31/2004 4:30:31 AM
        
        Oh come on Rob (also- wanna Bet?) - Davin L. - 3/31/2004 1:24:02 AM
        
        Take your time. - RobVG - 3/31/2004 2:14:33 AM
        
        For the third time: "Oh! Come on!" - Davin L. - 3/31/2004 2:37:28 AM
        
        Tactic No. 2 - RobVG - 3/31/2004 3:10:17 AM
        
        re: Tactic No. 2 - Davin L. - 3/31/2004 4:59:47 AM
        
        Waiting. - RobVG - 3/31/2004 6:30:10 AM
        
        Be my guest, hell should freeze over sometine in the next 10,000MY - Davin L. - 3/31/2004 4:09:16 PM
        
        I get now. Public "flogging" - RobVG - 3/31/2004 6:50:35 PM
        
        re: I get now. Public "flogging" - Davin L. - 3/31/2004 8:40:14 PM
        
        DRAT!!!! - Davin L. - 3/31/2004 5:03:22 AM
        
        A reminder to us all to keep it real, keep it humble - Tony - 3/31/2004 4:36:10 PM
        
        PS - RobVG - 3/31/2004 2:30:45 AM
      - What's your hurry? - RobVG - 3/30/2004 6:51:36 PM
      - Brass tacks - Tom Brosz - 3/30/2004 4:48:28 PM
        
        Rusty Nails - Davin L. - 3/31/2004 4:23:11 PM
        
        Donors pledge $4.4 bln to Afghanistan this year [Link] - RobVG - 3/31/2004 9:50:52 PM
        
        Use of Denial tactic No.1 - RobVG - 3/31/2004 9:45:56 PM
        
        No deal, sparky - Davin L. - 3/31/2004 10:48:54 PM
        
        re: No deal, sparky - RobVG - 4/1/2004 1:34:33 AM
        
        How about answering some of *my* questions? - Davin L. - 4/1/2004 3:03:35 AM
        
        Arguing for argument's sake? - RobVG - 4/1/2004 7:22:43 PM
        
        Well, a simple "No, Davin, I'm not going to answer any questions that would have me back up my narrow, misleading and selectively quotes statistics" would suffice - Davin L. - 4/2/2004 1:27:09 AM
        
        Arguing with you is like trying to catch minnows with a salmon net. - RobVG - 4/2/2004 3:07:01 AM
        
        Some things you might have overlooked - Davin L. - 4/2/2004 5:03:58 AM
        
        Same story, better source - Davin L. - 4/2/2004 5:19:27 AM
        
        It's ok Davin, just let go... - RobVG - 4/2/2004 6:14:39 PM
        
        I see, so by 'rebuilding' what you really meant was to leave it impoverished, starving and a wreck - Davin L. - 4/2/2004 6:36:59 PM
        
        Bye (n/t) - RobVG - 4/2/2004 6:57:12 PM
        
        Ah....tomorrow is going to be a good day.:-) (n/t) - RobVG - 4/2/2004 6:46:42 AM
        
        Yeah, go ahead- sleep on it - Davin L. - 4/2/2004 7:30:39 AM
        
        And Arguing with you is like trying to hammer a nail through unobtanium.... So is getting answers out of you.(also a word about double standards and name calling) - Davin L. - 4/2/2004 4:44:40 AM
        
        oh, and BTW - Davin L. - 4/1/2004 3:09:29 AM
    - Whatta maroon - Odin - 3/30/2004 9:08:27 AM
      - And what recommendations were those? Be specific. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/30/2004 4:36:44 PM
        
        What recommendations? - Odin - 3/30/2004 9:11:28 PM
      - Wow! What 'politeness', 'civility', and 'compassion' liberals have. - Jacob Samorodin - 3/30/2004 3:48:23 PM
        
        Calm down, lil one - Odin - 3/30/2004 9:16:09 PM
        
        Your sarcasm falls flat when you make open threats of physical violence. - Davin L. - 3/30/2004 4:19:25 PM

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