Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot and Mao Tsedong were moral upstanding members of the community?
How did you arrive at that unwarranted conclusion? Morality and legality aren't synonyms.
If I define a lump of coal as a teakettle, I can derive that I can make tea with it. It doesn't make it true in the real world. In fact it makes for a housefire.
And if you define "murder" as "the unlawful killing of one human being by another, especially with premeditated malice" (as the American Hertiage Dictionary does), and you call someone "a murderer," you should be able to explain how the murderer's killing was unlawful.
How was Saddam's killing of other human beings unlawful according to the Iraqi legal system at the time he did the killing? I haven't researched it extensively, but I believe most dictators alter their legal systems to allow them legal carte blanche. According to this excerpt, Saddam seems to have done so:
Charles Forest, director of Indict - a London-based group (funded partly by the US State Department) which is gathering evidence for a war crimes trial - said: "There is a growing consensus that the best solution would be for Saddam Hussein to be tried in Iraq under Iraqi law."
International judges
He said there could be an international element, with foreign judges sitting alongside Iraqi judges in a special court. This would help avoid any impression that Iraqis who suffered under Saddam were taking revenge. And Iraqi law would have to be changed first.
"At the moment, Saddam Hussein and the top leadership are immune under Iraqi law," he said.
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Odin, this is about as bad as some of the arguments formulated gbaikie or ebnelson. Check your reasoning process or you are just a mindless believer of a different flavor.
No offense, but your opinion of my argument would carry more weight if your comments demonstrated you understood it, and even more if you successfully refuted it.
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- 80% of the problem in Iraq is surrounded
- Look for things to get worse, not 80% better
- The USMC is playing this smart
- As I said before, it is time to bring in the B-52Hs and B1-Bs while they are surrounded.
- The US is over there. Illegally and immorally killing 'em.
- If my country was run by a mass murderer and generalized asshole like Saddam Hussein, and some other country
- Don't believe your own propaganda.
- Saddam was a mass murderer?
- So by your premises
- The UN treaty that Iraq signed prohibits such activity.
- Pathetic pedantic
- Pathetic response
- Fine
- Hello? He murdered masses of people. Are you another academic?
- Get down on your knees and kiss the feet of our resident philosophy professor:
- lezeee, liberal=Democrat=academic=buttmonkey=marxist? Have I got your formula right Tom?
- Another: T'Hell with tom Brosz for painting with a broad brush
- Cite the Iraq law(s) Saddam violated.
- Thats precisely on the same level as asking: "Cite the Nazi Germany laws that Hitler violated when he gassed the jews"
- Pathetic response
- Man...
- Do ya have to be a lawyer to have an interest in the rule of law?
- If my country was run by a mass murderer and generalized asshole like Saddam Hussein, and some other country
- Winning hearts and minds of the "next bunch of assholes"
- They're not very smart.
- The US is over there. Illegally and immorally killing 'em.