Athiest nations?

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Athiest nations?

Art Martin — 7/13/2004 11:24:54 PM (archived)

I'm replying to both your posts here Tom. Actually there have been very few "atheist nations" in world history. The Soviet Union is generally thought of as that but in actuality very few of their leaders turned away from religion. Of course you're correct when you say that there is a tremendous potential for evil when citizens of countries diefy their own leaders but you have to realize that when dictators attain that status they often portray themselves as messengers from some God. Generally in history, the most evil and bloodthirsty regimes have claimed some devine blessing to their quests for power especially early in their developments. Once the power is granted, there is a jealousy from the political leaders of the power of the clergy. It is at that later stage that those nations turn away from their need for devine backing.

A prime example is Hitler who used Biblical text extensively to create his country's disdain for the Jews. Once his power was consolidated he no longer needed that connection. The seed was already sown.

I hope you weren't trying to tie the term "socialism" with the term "atheism". They are absolutely mutual of one another in both meaning and intent just as trying to tie the terms "fascist" and "right wing religious fundamentalist" would be.

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Is Islam a peaceful religion? - p - 7/13/2004 1:19:01 AM
- Is Christianity a peaceful religion? - E.P. Grondine - 7/14/2004 1:52:37 AM
  - Christ was peaceful. - REB - 7/14/2004 2:12:06 PM
    - If he even existed. Not much evidence - Art Martin - 7/14/2004 7:07:16 PM
    - Christ vandalized ATM machines......... - Publius - 7/14/2004 4:55:13 PM
      - He turned over some tables - REB - 7/14/2004 5:27:50 PM
    - Paul was peaceful - E.P. Grondine - 7/14/2004 3:06:18 PM
      - Not before his conversion. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2004 4:19:15 PM
- Now here are some Muslims who have their priorties straight! - m - 7/14/2004 1:27:52 AM
- It's a major problem - FrankC - 7/13/2004 4:16:27 AM
  - I'm stealing your Pat Robertson mentality idea - good analysis (n/t) - phil - 7/13/2004 1:49:22 PM
- It was a "Christian" President who attacked Iraq. - Bowser - 7/13/2004 3:51:54 AM
  - That ridiculous mantra might make a small amount of sense if Bush had attacked Iraq to convert it to Christianity. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/13/2004 4:26:02 AM
    - Speaking of... - Buck Galaxy - 7/13/2004 6:22:08 AM
      - Probably as much as Kerry listens to Michael Moore... - Tom Brosz - 7/13/2004 6:33:02 AM
- Well, you don't see any Buddhist terrorists... - RobVG - 7/13/2004 2:39:25 AM
  - Buddhist terrorists... - Publius - 7/14/2004 3:38:10 PM
    - "titular" ...had to look that one up. - RobVG - 7/14/2004 4:05:16 PM
  - What was the religion of the Japanese at Nanking? Real question, not rhetorical. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/13/2004 5:45:51 PM
    - re: What was the religion of the Japanese at Nanking? Real question, not rhetorical. - Publius - 7/14/2004 3:30:42 PM
    - r.s.v.p. - RobVG - 7/14/2004 1:58:50 PM
      - No, I honestly was looking for an answer. Thanks! - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2004 7:00:16 AM
        
        Gotcha, thanks (n/t) - RobVG - 7/15/2004 3:59:17 PM
    - A little gooling and... - RobVG - 7/13/2004 7:14:57 PM
      - "googling" (n/t) - RobVG - 7/13/2004 7:53:24 PM
    - Off the top of my head.. - FrankC - 7/13/2004 6:46:07 PM
      - Japan...... - Publius - 7/14/2004 4:46:08 PM
  - hmm, the religion with the least connection to a God is peaceful? - Art Martin - 7/13/2004 4:13:19 PM
    - re: Humanism - Raoul - 7/13/2004 9:46:01 PM
      - funny and interesting - Daniel L - 7/15/2004 2:39:59 PM
      - Clarke's interview was in the spring of 1999. - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2004 12:44:28 AM
      - re: Humanism - Art Martin - 7/13/2004 11:34:11 PM
    - BTW, I agree with your last sentence. - Tom Brosz - 7/13/2004 5:52:29 PM
      - Athiest nations? - Art Martin - 7/13/2004 11:24:54 PM
        
        re: Atheist nations. - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2004 12:38:28 AM
    - Do I need to refresh your memory on what atheist nations and cultures have done in the past century? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/13/2004 5:49:28 PM
      - re: Christian culture - Mary Anne - 7/14/2004 12:59:37 AM
        
        re: Christian culture - Art Martin - 7/14/2004 7:22:10 PM
        
        Fine. - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2004 3:56:34 AM
        
        PS - Mary Anne - 7/14/2004 12:16:51 PM
        
        Of course there is "good" and "bad" killing. - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2004 7:15:48 AM
        
        There's a big difference between "justifiable" and "good". - Mary Anne - 7/16/2004 3:00:43 AM
        
        Human beings are hurt by other human beings. - Mary Anne - 7/14/2004 11:55:32 AM
        
        "Safer and more convenient." I suppose that's one way of looking at it. - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2004 7:11:56 AM

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