You Can't Have It Both Ways

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You Can't Have It Both Ways

Mark Eby — 8/28/2004 3:20:10 AM (archived)

I've heard you complain that the models have so many variables that they could fit any curve and that they don't cover enough variables. The curves fit as good as many engineering models Larry. Claiming they are not reasonably validated sets a standard few other models in every day use meet.

My apologies for the real scientist comment by the way. You may not be a practicing researcher, but you certainly have a scientific mind as does Don. Unfortunately we're all human and bias intrudes on everyone no matter how well we understand science. The beauty of the scientific process is that it overcomes bias with time. Unfortunately this is an issue that is likely to cause denial even as the effects become very real because people will still want to blame something that doesn't impact their standard of living.

Regards,
Mark

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Interview with an economics professor - Tom Brosz - 8/17/2004 2:49:48 AM
- Divergence - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 5:02:08 AM
- Hilarious! - Mark Eby - 8/21/2004 12:59:02 AM
  - I don't trust unvalidated models - Larry J - 8/23/2004 9:50:51 PM
    - The Problem Is Your Definition Of Validated - Mark Eby - 8/26/2004 2:31:31 AM
      - re: The Problem Is Your Definition Of Validated - Larry J - 8/26/2004 9:16:50 PM
        
        On The Economic/Growth Issues - Mark Eby - 8/28/2004 6:20:50 PM
        
        You Can't Have It Both Ways - Mark Eby - 8/28/2004 3:20:10 AM
- So now something favorable is reported. - Bowser - 8/17/2004 3:14:37 AM
  - re: So now something favorable is reported. - McFly - 8/19/2004 12:29:04 AM
    - Fact of political life: incumbents run on their records in office - alcaray - 8/19/2004 3:58:11 PM
  - re: So now something favorable is reported. - gbaikie - 8/18/2004 3:03:31 AM
    - That was a stupid, stupid thing to say - R.L. - 8/30/2004 12:07:50 AM
    - "First math isn't usually a strong domain of Dems- "too boring". - Bowser - 8/18/2004 1:21:51 PM
      - re: "First math isn't usually a strong domain of Dems- "too boring". - gbaikie - 8/19/2004 2:27:53 AM
        
        Pah - thetic! (n/t) - Bowser - 8/19/2004 4:19:38 AM
        
        Must....resist....obvious....slow pitch...across plate....Argh.. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 4:56:15 AM
        
        Humor aside, Geoff's response was pathetic. (n/t) - alcaray - 8/19/2004 3:52:02 PM
        
        No, needing an explanation is pathetic - gbaikie - 8/19/2004 8:18:49 PM
        
        A doomed attempt to remind Geoff what Bowser wanted explained - alcaray - 8/19/2004 10:48:15 PM
        
        re: A doomed attempt - gbaikie - 8/20/2004 3:31:03 AM
        
        I have no more patience for reminding you guys what you said (n/t) - alcaray - 8/20/2004 4:41:53 PM
        
        If you want me to, I can run a continuing edit of your English usage, as a demonstration of relative proficiency, conservative and liberal. - Mary Anne - 8/20/2004 3:38:06 PM
        
        I read an indefinite article once. Wasn't sure what to make of it. (n/t) - McFly - 8/20/2004 9:51:08 PM
        
        Are you sure it wasn't just a dangling participle? Dr. Ruth can tell you what to do about that (n/t) - Davin L. - 8/24/2004 2:01:03 AM
        
        -grin- Probably because of an unclear antecedent. You never know to what it's referring. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 8/23/2004 3:49:51 PM
        
        LOL! good one McFly (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/21/2004 12:37:52 AM
        
        re: If you want me to - gbaikie - 8/20/2004 9:19:50 PM
        
        My God! It's Pee Wee Herman! - Mary Anne - 8/23/2004 3:40:48 PM
        
        Btw - gbaikie - 8/24/2004 1:12:30 AM
        
        re: My God! It's Pee Wee Herman! - gbaikie - 8/23/2004 11:44:29 PM
        
        Wow! I bet you had a cigarette after that one - Davin L. - 8/23/2004 11:04:38 PM
        
        Sometimes we learn things from people that they did not intend to teach us. (n/t) - jms - 8/28/2004 4:10:40 AM
        
        I did - then I came back and archived the post. (n/t) - Fox - 8/23/2004 11:24:27 PM
        
        Those things'll kill ya. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/27/2004 4:13:15 PM
        
        Clarification and correction - Mary Anne - 8/23/2004 4:13:44 PM
        
        hmmm - Davin L. - 8/20/2004 6:32:25 PM
        
        I'll drink to that. BBBUUURRRPPP!!!! (n/t) - WMD Y<b>et</b>i - 8/20/2004 10:48:30 PM
        
        Yeah, but you'll drink to anything... (n/t) - RobVG - 8/21/2004 5:05:26 AM
        
        Hmm, which is better than swallowing anything you are told... (n/t) - Davin L. - 8/22/2004 2:51:59 AM
        
        True, but the same could be said of washing everything down with unsubstantiated certainty. (n/t) - RobVG - 8/22/2004 5:35:18 PM
        
        Like the undoubtable ties between al-qaeda and saddam, that can't be documented but exist none-the-less? (n/t) - Davin L. - 8/22/2004 8:55:47 PM
        
        re: Like the undoubtable ties between al-qaeda and saddam, that can't be documented but exist none-the-less? - SteveS - 8/22/2004 11:31:41 PM
        
        Oh, well! that excuses it then! - Davin L. - 8/23/2004 12:19:20 AM
        
        Hehehe. Be sure to wash that down with the Al-Qaeda ties. (n/t) - Davin L. - 8/21/2004 3:30:14 AM
        
        I have four friends, people I could call, who are Ph. D.s in Math. - Bowser - 8/20/2004 2:50:44 AM
        
        Good. Why don't you ask your friends about the book (n/t) - gbaikie - 8/20/2004 3:33:17 AM
        
        "Bush is going to win both California and New York" - Stop drinking the campaign Kool-Aid!!!!! - Tony - 8/19/2004 8:39:31 PM
        
        re: "Bush is going to win both California and New York" - gbaikie - 8/20/2004 8:21:26 AM
        
        I book-marked that one! Tony- remind me to trot that one out come Nov. (n/t) - Davin L. - 8/22/2004 6:36:37 AM
        
        Even I'm not predicting that. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 4:56:51 AM
        
        Will do. - Tony - 8/23/2004 6:47:21 PM
    - Some heavily academic people in science and math are apolitical. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 8:12:56 AM
  - So, do you think her response would have been the same... - Tom Brosz - 8/17/2004 3:46:06 AM
    - So do you think the FBI harassed potential demonstrators at the D convention? - Bowser - 8/17/2004 4:25:56 AM

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