re: "These people"

Tom Brosz — 10/12/2004 6:21:02 PM (archived)

My quote:

Our military is derided by the Left for not effectively dealing with "no-go" zones, but when these zones are dealt with, the Left instantly switches to waving the bloody shirts of civilians around. If the military retreats, they'll switch back.

Why not just admit that any conceivable action other than humiliating surrender is not going to get the approval of these people? Then go and do what needs to be done.

In context, "these people" refers to the anti-war leftists. Not the Iraqis.

Interesting that the entire business of the mass graves, and Iraqi losses from those, is completely ignored. Did you see the numbers?

The status quo in Iraq was the endless killing of Iraqis, sometimes in massacres, most often dragging them off in the night. Hundreds of thousands. An average of thirty a day for 25 years, if you use the numbers at the low end of the scale. If you go to the high end, and include those killed in wars, or those in other countries killed by Saddam, this number goes over a hundred a day. This situation would not have improved when Saddam's insane sons took over.

If we are discussing sympathy for innocent Iraqis on this thread, as opposed to WMD or other issues, that is part of the discussion.

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Bill Whittle is back online, and it's about time. Subject: Deterrence. - Tom Brosz - 10/6/2004 11:15:28 PM
- Ugh. Too much propaganda! Can you summarize? (n/t) - alcaray - 10/6/2004 11:25:52 PM
  - No. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/6/2004 11:30:51 PM
    - Sorry buddy, but it is too damn long. (n/t) - alcaray - 10/7/2004 4:04:01 PM
    - I can. - Mary Anne - 10/7/2004 2:57:26 AM
      - The object of justice is not getting even - LJ - 10/7/2004 3:45:43 PM
        
        "If everyone understood it the world would be a much better place." - Tom Brosz - 10/7/2004 4:09:52 PM
        
        re: Not useless.... - Raoul - 10/7/2004 7:24:02 PM
        
        More fluff. - Tom Brosz - 10/8/2004 6:26:03 PM
        
        re: More fluff. - Raoul - 10/8/2004 8:58:25 PM
        
        great quote (n/t) - alcaray - 10/7/2004 9:10:52 PM
        
        re: Not useless.... - REB - 10/7/2004 8:37:43 PM
        
        No. All people who take an action, should be responsible for the consuquences of the action. (n/t) - Tony - 10/8/2004 8:02:01 PM
        
        How is that statement useless? - alcaray - 10/7/2004 6:12:45 PM
        
        re: How is that statement useless? - Tom Brosz - 10/8/2004 6:17:55 PM
        
        Sorry I thought you were responding to the theme of his post - alcaray - 10/8/2004 7:20:10 PM
        
        No, my fault. - Tom Brosz - 10/9/2004 3:43:07 AM
        
        re: How is that statement useless? - gbaikie - 10/7/2004 8:58:42 PM
        
        Justice should never be about revenge. - REB - 10/7/2004 3:55:31 PM
      - re: The stick. - Tom Brosz - 10/7/2004 5:34:40 AM
        
        Important difference between fiction and reality... - alcaray - 10/7/2004 4:23:08 PM
        
        re: Important difference between fiction and reality... - Tom Brosz - 10/7/2004 5:45:58 PM
        
        Can I get to be Han Solo in this scenario? (n/t) - Tony - 10/8/2004 7:58:51 PM
        
        I call the cops. What do you do? (n/t) - alcaray - 10/7/2004 6:00:46 PM
        
        Are you too special to answer your own question? (n/t) - alcaray - 10/7/2004 10:57:33 PM
        
        We did call the cops. - Tom Brosz - 10/8/2004 6:20:26 PM
        
        I was hoping that if you answered the question, it would help me figure out what you were getting at - alcaray - 10/8/2004 7:10:30 PM
        
        What I'm trying very hard to "get at" - Tom Brosz - 10/9/2004 5:15:17 PM
        
        re: International cooperation - Raoul - 10/10/2004 8:22:02 AM
        
        re: International cooperation - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2004 3:49:36 AM
        
        The topic is Iraq - Mary Anne - 10/12/2004 11:37:04 AM
        
        re: The topic is the war on terrorism - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2004 5:47:03 PM
        
        Burning down the house to kill the roaches. - Mary Anne - 10/10/2004 1:57:53 AM
        
        "Burning down the house to kill the roaches." - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2004 3:46:14 AM
        
        "These people" - Mary Anne - 10/12/2004 11:48:15 AM
        
        re: "These people" - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2004 6:21:02 PM
        
        These mass graves? - Tony - 10/12/2004 8:37:51 PM
        
        re: These mass graves? - gbaikie - 10/13/2004 8:42:09 AM
        
        Ask your pastor. - Mary Anne - 10/7/2004 10:53:01 AM
        
        re: What would Jesus do? - Scott Evil - 10/7/2004 10:10:22 PM
        
        re: Ask your pastor. - Tom Brosz - 10/7/2004 4:08:07 PM
        
        re: "Weep for these children, too." Many of us do. - Fox - 10/8/2004 2:04:17 AM
        
        Peace - Tom Brosz - 10/8/2004 6:23:16 PM
        
        "Oddly, this does not happen to Israelis who support peace with the Palestinians." - Tony - 10/8/2004 7:01:41 PM
        
        Nice try. - Tom Brosz - 10/9/2004 3:41:45 AM
        
        Nice try? - Tony - 10/11/2004 8:00:23 PM
        
        Geez. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2004 3:47:25 AM

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