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FrankC — 5/24/2005 7:23:21 PM (archived)

but Truman was never labeled a leftist by his contemporaries and would not be labeled such today. Forget about the rumors of his bigotry against Jews and blacks or his paid dues in the KKK, Truman was essentially a centrist.

Truman supported certain entitlements as did Republicans of that day and he was a friend to unions which was the biggest difference in the Dems and GOP of that day. Political vernacular of that time does not translate well today but in 1948 Truman was not a leftist in the vein of Henry Wallace any more that Dewey was a right winger compared to Thurmond.

The fact is, all of our Presidents wind up with a legacy of moderation either due to checks and balances or their own persuasion. It only the kooks and malcontents that find them extreme. History seperates the wheat from the chaff.

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"Why I'm leaving the Left" - Tom Brosz - 5/22/2005 9:11:13 PM
- Another one - Tom Brosz - 5/29/2005 12:18:53 AM
  - re: Another one - Mary Anne - 5/29/2005 1:24:41 AM
- The onset of middle age often has results like this. - Mary Anne - 5/26/2005 3:03:04 PM
  - Yes, something must have happened - Sam F. - 5/26/2005 6:31:59 PM
    - Your characterization is pretty far from what MaryAnne said. - alcaray - 5/26/2005 8:57:02 PM
      - Well, we could do this all day - Sam F. - 5/27/2005 9:22:59 AM
        
        Or you could go back and re-read Mary Anne's post. - alcaray - 5/27/2005 3:54:53 PM
    - Take a look. It happens both ways. - Mary Anne - 5/26/2005 6:58:56 PM
      - re: Take a look - Tom Brosz - 5/28/2005 1:44:55 AM
        
        Fine. I'll take my unenlightened little self off to a baghram. - Mary Anne - 5/28/2005 8:06:05 PM
        
        "conservatives have been calling liberals all kinds of vile names for a very long time." - Tom Brosz - 5/28/2005 9:58:03 PM
        
        Can I use this ad infinitum in the future? - Tony - 5/31/2005 5:43:54 PM
        
        re: ad infinitum - Tom Brosz - 5/31/2005 7:57:10 PM
        
        re: "Find me one damn Democrat who thinks they might have lost the election because their policies and ideas might be wrong." - alcaray - 5/31/2005 10:55:22 PM
        
        Earth. And you? (n/t) - Mary Anne - 5/28/2005 10:05:10 PM
      - Great. - Sam F. - 5/27/2005 10:17:38 AM
        
        Read more carefully next time. You missed a paragraph. - Mary Anne - 5/27/2005 3:14:03 PM
        
        Again, the presumption - Sam F. - 5/27/2005 9:42:01 PM
        
        re: Again, the reading comprehension - Mary Anne - 5/28/2005 12:09:32 AM
    - So I suck at proofreading. Sue me. ;-) (n/t) - Sam F. - 5/26/2005 6:44:05 PM
- re: "Why I'm leaving the Left" - Publius - 5/25/2005 1:44:53 PM
  - "Re-invented Democrats." - Tom Brosz - 5/25/2005 6:17:41 PM
    - re: "Re-invented Democrats." - alcaray - 5/25/2005 9:33:25 PM
      - Wow. Now who's "reality-based?" - Tom Brosz - 5/26/2005 12:53:20 AM
        
        Yeah, that's how it works in the Brosz universe (n/t) - alcaray - 5/26/2005 3:47:24 PM
        
        Someday if I get ambitious... - Tom Brosz - 5/26/2005 10:33:11 PM
        
        promise to put the good and the bad? (n/t) - tony - 5/27/2005 1:25:45 AM
        
        And the ugly! (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 5/27/2005 6:50:19 AM
        
        I'll hold you to it... - Tony - 5/27/2005 2:35:12 PM
        
        Like when the American right wanted Buchannon to be president. (n/t) - alcaray - 5/27/2005 4:31:32 PM
        
        You'd have to write your own timeline on that one. - Tom Brosz - 5/28/2005 1:55:42 AM
        
        I'm not really interested in what you think "would happen". - alcaray - 5/31/2005 6:11:37 PM
        
        re: I'm not really interested - Tom Brosz - 5/31/2005 8:08:36 PM
        
        "The beauty of this kind of thinking is that you can never be wrong, can you?" My point, precisely. (n/t) - alcaray - 5/31/2005 9:29:06 PM
        
        Do you really have the technology? (n/t) - alcaray - 5/26/2005 11:02:31 PM
        
        Reagan's lack of foresight re: Europe. - SDAI-Tech1 - 5/26/2005 6:15:41 AM
        
        Not quite. - Tom Brosz - 5/26/2005 9:45:55 PM
- One can find anyone who will say anything. Most people know that. - Bowser - 5/23/2005 9:50:06 PM
  - By the way, is Truman still a Reagan Republican? - Bowser - 5/23/2005 9:51:47 PM
    - Why do you find it amusing - FrankC - 5/23/2005 11:17:49 PM
      - Frank, are you being silly on purpose? - Bowser - 5/24/2005 12:59:17 AM
        
        Bowser believe what you wish as you always do... - FrankC - 5/24/2005 7:23:21 PM
        
        Can you read? For his time, Truman was as left as they come. - Bowser - 5/25/2005 2:20:50 PM
        
        as left as they come. - FrankC - 5/25/2005 4:06:16 PM
        
        (Yer citation)" ----pursued an aggressively liberal program ---- " And, you can't admit yer wrong. Goes with the territory. - Bowser - 5/25/2005 6:33:16 PM
        
        so there you go liberals of this forum - FrankC - 5/25/2005 7:41:14 PM
        
        Holy jumpin' up and down Martha!!! Stop digging, FrankC. - Bowser - 5/25/2005 9:12:37 PM
        
        Sure Bowser - FrankC - 5/25/2005 11:06:28 PM
        
        I think 99% of Democrats consider themselves "a bit ot the left of center" - alcaray - 5/25/2005 5:13:13 PM
        
        And most Republicans think of themselves as slightly right of center - FrankC - 5/25/2005 7:44:54 PM
        
        The original thread was on foreign policy, but whatever. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 5/24/2005 3:20:25 AM
        
        re: Frank, are you being silly on purpose? - gbaikie - 5/24/2005 2:05:50 AM
        
        If you are even a hocky puck, it's been too long a game! - Bowser - 5/24/2005 2:47:41 AM
        
        re: If you are even a hocky puck, it's been too long a game! - gbaikie - 5/24/2005 6:53:38 AM
- Just wondering - Sam F. - 5/23/2005 1:26:46 AM
  - Good question. - Tom Brosz - 5/23/2005 4:18:29 AM

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