re: amazing......
The idea that winning against the kind of enemy we are dealing with is considered a quaint and outmoded concept by people like you is only one of many reasons such people should never be in charge of our national security.
Believe me, Zaraqawi, bin Laden, and others have much more practical views about how to deal with their enemies, and a very clear idea of what victory is. Much of it involves people with refined and nuanced views of life being buried in mass graves.