re: *sigh* is indeed a proper response to your antiphrasis

Publius — 1/13/2006 4:34:31 PM (archived)

But, that fact aside, I do appreciate you attempt a clarification--even if it is grugingly made.

By your reference you intend the extreme right wing, conservative, fundamentalist segment of Islam, and the Wahabbi sect certainly fits that mold.

I might point out that "Islam" is not "more typically Muslim" but rather that identification common to Muslims (or Moslems) that profess to their submission to the will of God. This identification crosses national and ethnic lines and is the whole body of the Moslem people and the nations they occupy. The creed is there is no God but Allah, and Mohammed is his prophet.

The Taliban and al Quaeda are more like what the Mafia is to Catholicism. As to how "Islamist" has been used consistently by you and other on this board, you can readilly see lacks clarity and definitive quality. So, I too *sigh*.

I certainly would have understood what you were trying to say had you used "fundamentalist" to refer to a Christian, but I have have problems with that use as being broadly over-used also.

The problems with concepts is simply the devil is in the details. Catchall phrases ignore these details.

Publius

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        re: Zaraqawi, bin Laden and others - Tom Brosz - 1/8/2006 4:47:19 AM
        
        Please don't continue your reducto ad absurbum tactic - Publius - 1/8/2006 5:04:44 PM
        
        Please, feel free - Tom Brosz - 1/8/2006 11:17:29 PM
        
        free friggin..... - Publius - 1/10/2006 2:34:23 PM
        
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        still searching for your friggen clue............ - Publius - 1/11/2006 2:43:29 PM
        
        Anybody else want to help him out with "Islamist?" And maybe the clue? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 1/11/2006 7:01:51 PM
        
        Why? Is this something you can't handle? (n/t) - Publius - 1/12/2006 4:50:43 PM
        
        *sigh* - Tom Brosz - 1/12/2006 6:19:18 PM
        
        re: *sigh* is indeed a proper response to your antiphrasis - Publius - 1/13/2006 4:34:31 PM
        
        re: proper response - Tom Brosz - 1/13/2006 5:06:57 PM
        
        sorry, an adverb was required, of course you meant "correctly" - Publius - 1/13/2006 6:19:34 PM
        
        Usually, irony of some kind is part of the definition. - Tom Brosz - 1/13/2006 6:23:40 PM
        
        I'll betcha........... - Publius - 1/13/2006 11:01:54 PM
        
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