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re: Blind leading the blind.

azstrummer — 1/12/2006 11:56:32 PM (archived)

Boy, Bowser can sure push buttons. Is what we're seeing in Iraq American democracy? To me it sure doesn't seem to have the Thomas Jeffersons and Samuel Adams characters associated with it. So far I simply haven't seen the same type of noble leaders stepping forth challenging the conventions the various factions seem to embrace. All indications are that country is heading towards an Iranian-backed radical Islamic society, with far less freedom for a vast majority of the country. That's if the country even survives as a whole and doesn't splinter into 3 separate nations.

Our democracy didn't arise from deeply religious zealots but from a desire to escape them. Without that basic foundation of the separation of church and state, which it appears will never catch on there, democracy as we know it is a dead deal.

So, in a way, Bowser's right. What Bush has caused to prosper in Iraq isn't far from Sharia. It's GWB that's labeling it American democracy so, if you don't like the association of the two together, blame him and not Bowser.

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Update on the Enlightened's dealings with Iraq as it builds atomic weapons - Tom Brosz - 1/10/2006 1:07:44 AM
- re: Why the war? - Raoul - 1/13/2006 10:38:13 PM
  - Ahhh, actually..... - Publius - 1/13/2006 11:07:14 PM
- Unforrtunately... - Donald - 1/13/2006 2:32:11 PM
  - So let me get this straight... - Tom Brosz - 1/13/2006 6:30:39 PM
    - Hasn't Don said that all along? (n/t) - Tony - 1/13/2006 8:29:32 PM
    - It prevents us from attacking AND it prevents us from doing effective sabre-rattling. (n/t) - alcaray - 1/13/2006 7:26:18 PM
      - re: It prevents us from attacking AND it prevents us from doing effective sabre-rattling. - Tom Brosz - 1/13/2006 9:00:07 PM
        
        re: Mandela talked to Gadaffi - Raoul - 1/13/2006 9:50:41 PM
        
        I heard a different story - Tom Brosz - 1/14/2006 7:43:54 AM
        
        re: Nevertheless, the impetus started long before (n/t) - Raoul - 1/14/2006 10:08:13 AM
        
        Why doesn't Mandella work some of that magic with Iran. - Scott Evil - 1/13/2006 9:52:54 PM
        
        re: Iran is not part of Africa - Raoul - 1/13/2006 10:07:40 PM
  - Totally agree with you Donald on this one (n/t) - Lindy - 1/13/2006 5:50:27 PM
- Continued talks - Lindy - 1/11/2006 6:48:15 PM
- You make it sound like the US has no input. - Tony - 1/10/2006 8:45:37 PM
  - One solution - Tom Brosz - 1/11/2006 3:40:06 AM
- re: Iran v Iraq - Raoul - 1/10/2006 5:11:45 PM
- Sounds similar to our approach to the NK problem. Wake me up when they have had 6 years to deal with Iraq. (n/t) - alcaray - 1/10/2006 4:34:08 PM
- Shouldn't folks be concerned with getting nukes out of the Middle East? - Elwood Bowser - 1/10/2006 5:18:52 AM
- Should be "Iran" of course. Meanwhile... - Tom Brosz - 1/10/2006 1:39:49 AM
  - Gee, that sounds familiar? - Publius - 1/10/2006 2:58:30 PM
    - Yes, Publius. Sharia is exactly the same thing as U.S. democracy. - Tom Brosz - 1/11/2006 3:42:15 AM
      - Thank you....... - Publius - 1/12/2006 5:00:55 PM
        
        Yeah, and that's why you put freedom in quotes. - SDAI-Tech1 - 1/12/2006 10:21:13 PM
        
        Wow! That could be one interesting swimming pool..... (n/t) - Publius - 1/13/2006 4:50:41 PM
      - You know he did not say nor imply anything of the kind. (n/t) - alcaray - 1/11/2006 4:44:57 PM
        
        Nice try. - Tom Brosz - 1/12/2006 1:52:29 AM
        
        What people say is what people say. - alcaray - 1/12/2006 6:43:08 AM
        
        Oh give it a rest. - SDAI-Tech1 - 1/12/2006 8:07:16 AM
        
        re: Oh give it a rest. - Lindy - 1/12/2006 5:35:58 PM
        
        Classic cars can get boring after awhile. - SDAI-Tech1 - 1/12/2006 9:48:11 PM
        
        Civil war was a worth the sacrifices......maybe. - azstrummer - 1/12/2006 11:45:13 PM
        
        re: Civil war was a worth the sacrifices......maybe. - SDAI-Tech1 - 1/13/2006 6:23:26 AM
        
        As long as we are making up history here - alcaray - 1/13/2006 7:38:46 PM
        
        re: As long as we are making up history here - azstrummer - 1/13/2006 8:24:15 PM
        
        Tom knows (n/t) - alcaray - 1/14/2006 3:46:52 AM
        
        re: Civil war was a worth the sacrifices......maybe. - azstrummer - 1/13/2006 4:42:08 PM
        
        You might have a point. - Tom Brosz - 1/13/2006 12:33:07 AM
        
        re: You might have a point. - Lindy - 1/13/2006 5:52:54 AM
        
        Oh...and Publius was practicing Moral Equivalence too. ;-) (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 1/12/2006 8:09:42 AM
        
        So you and Tom assert. - alcaray - 1/12/2006 4:11:20 PM
        
        Let's try it this way: - Tom Brosz - 1/12/2006 6:04:50 PM
        
        Great Ceasar's ghost! - alcaray - 1/12/2006 6:48:10 PM
        
        Blind leading the blind. - SDAI-Tech1 - 1/12/2006 9:59:12 PM
        
        re: Blind leading the blind. - azstrummer - 1/12/2006 11:56:32 PM
        
        Last post in this silly business - alcaray - 1/12/2006 10:57:40 PM
        
        re: So you and Tom assert. - Publius - 1/12/2006 5:09:25 PM
        
        It is a pet peeve of mine. It is so rude to the person you are talking to. (n/t) - alcaray - 1/12/2006 6:04:15 PM

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