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re: Key word being "aggressive" of course.

Robert — 6/21/2006 5:14:12 AM (archived)

I had to think about the assertion that Reagan was "confrontational". He was rhetorically confrontational--"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" won't be forgotten soon--but in action? He invaded Panama to settle an old score for the CIA, and invaded that prep school in the Carribean (drawing a blank)...but no, I just don't remember Reagan as anywhere near as belligerant and cocky as Dubya.

That vague assertion that Democrats "howled in agony" cracked me up. Hey Tom, remember how the Republican Congress reacted to Clinton lobbing 400 cruise missiles at Saddam Hussein? Accused him of fabricating the whole thing to distract attention from the Republican Monicagate setup...remember?

What matters is how Presidents act in office. And there your whole "cowardly Democrat" riff just collapses like the pitiful delusion it is. Let's see, we got Roosevelt winning WWII, Truman got us into Korea, Ike played golf, Kennedy got us into Vietnam and Johnson escalated into a quagmire (I think we ought to be more worried about Democrats possessing too much testosterone instead of too little)...and then there was Nixon, running on a promise that he had a secret plan to bring the boys home, and doing the Neville in Beijing. Any of this ringing a bell yet? Jerry Ford stumbled on the golf course, Carter stumbled badly in Iran, then the aforementioned Reagan, then HW....fine wartime leader, eh? Stopped the war short of Baghdad and left Clinton to deal with Saddam, which he did, kept Saddam successfully in the box, while Gore make a special study of bin Laden and al Qaeda, and the Clinton people tried to no avail to warn the Bushies of the danger from al Qaeda.

Democrats aren't aggressive enough? Oh man...I know I'll never get you to change your tune, but do you really expect that Republicans can win elections with that _rap?

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North Korea getting ready for some missile-waving - ljk - 6/20/2006 2:54:51 PM
- Mondale backs pre-emptive missile strike - David F Mayer - 6/23/2006 7:57:28 PM
  - I don't get it. - Tom Brosz - 6/23/2006 10:31:25 PM
    - Think Tom...Think! - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/24/2006 12:35:09 AM
- Gingrich and William Perry agree - Tony - 6/22/2006 3:12:50 PM
  - I did read or hear... - alcaray - 6/23/2006 5:18:14 PM
- See the North Korean Government slowly disintegrate. - David F Mayer - 6/21/2006 5:47:47 PM
  - re: See the North Korean Government slowly disintegrate. - ljk - 6/21/2006 5:52:17 PM
    - Hell no! (n/t) - DFM - 6/22/2006 8:44:01 PM
- Uhh, N Korea's been fuelin that thing for the past 4 days - carl - 6/21/2006 3:29:28 PM
  - Storables. The oxidizer is nasty stuff. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 6/21/2006 4:18:15 PM
- boost-phase intercept - Robert - 6/20/2006 3:31:16 PM
  - "I wonder if the laser-armed 747 is operational yet?" - R.L. - 6/24/2006 6:06:16 AM
  - Don't hold your breath. - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/21/2006 1:06:13 PM
  - I reluctantly agree - Scott Evil - 6/20/2006 8:21:56 PM
    - re: I reluctantly agree - Robert - 6/20/2006 9:22:41 PM
    - What about China? - REB - 6/20/2006 8:46:16 PM
      - re: What about China? - LJK - 6/21/2006 5:54:13 PM
        
        China fears N.Korea missile crisis - REB - 6/22/2006 3:16:16 PM
      - I don't think shooting down a missile over NK territory would harm China's soveirnty in any way. - Scott Evil - 6/20/2006 9:02:09 PM
      - I don't think shooting down a missile over NK territory would harm China's soveirnty in any way. - Scott Evil - 6/20/2006 9:02:07 PM
  - Our missile interceptors are probably expensive toys - alcaray - 6/20/2006 5:44:29 PM
    - LUV 2c it zapped by ABL System - carl - 6/22/2006 4:43:42 PM
    - "I would dearly love to be proved wrong on this" - Tom Brosz - 6/20/2006 6:30:13 PM
      - I detest wasting money. Always have. - alcaray - 6/20/2006 9:01:01 PM
        
        re: wasting money - Tom Brosz - 6/20/2006 10:58:27 PM
        
        I do agree that saving a city would not be a waste of money - alcaray - 6/21/2006 3:16:15 PM
        
        We've been through this. - Tom Brosz - 6/21/2006 4:17:41 PM
        
        Find some people who don't want it to work, and ask them, is my advice. - alcaray - 6/21/2006 4:28:36 PM
  - Would be better to intercept later in flight - Tom Brosz - 6/20/2006 4:33:26 PM
    - aggressive containment - Robert - 6/20/2006 5:48:46 PM
      - re: aggressive containment - Tom Brosz - 6/20/2006 6:14:57 PM
        
        re: aggressive containment - Robert - 6/20/2006 10:29:21 PM
        
        We said the same about Iraq. - Lee - 6/21/2006 1:23:49 AM
        
        Key word being "aggressive" of course. - Tom Brosz - 6/20/2006 11:04:46 PM
        
        re: Key word being "aggressive" of course. - Robert - 6/21/2006 5:14:12 AM
        
        Bush Sr. invaded Panama. - Lee - 6/21/2006 6:51:49 PM
        
        Examples of aggression - Tom Brosz - 6/21/2006 4:34:07 PM
        
        Clinto redux - Tony - 6/22/2006 3:17:04 PM
        
        So was Clinton wrong, or Bush? - Tom Brosz - 6/23/2006 12:09:34 AM
        
        Focus, Tom, Focus. - Tony - 6/23/2006 2:57:45 AM
        
        re: Clinto redux - REB - 6/22/2006 3:32:54 PM
  - Not a bad idea. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 6/20/2006 4:30:44 PM
  - Stopping petty little dictatorships before they really hurt someone - LJK - 6/20/2006 3:43:39 PM
    - re: Stopping petty little dictatorships before they really hurt someone - REB - 6/20/2006 4:21:16 PM
      - re: re:too much freedom - Raoul - 6/20/2006 4:33:29 PM
        
        Not true, Raoul. - ER - 6/20/2006 8:24:51 PM
        
        Well said. - Scott Evil - 6/20/2006 8:35:06 PM
        
        Yes, if you and your UN buddies had their way, Sadam and the thugs like heim would still be setting the rules. - Scott Evil - 6/20/2006 8:16:32 PM
        
        Wow. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 6/20/2006 5:43:13 PM
        
        re: re:too much freedom - ljk - 6/20/2006 5:25:30 PM
        
        What history are you remembering? - REB - 6/20/2006 4:45:17 PM
        
        re: The French Revolution (n/t) - Raoul - 6/23/2006 5:53:47 AM
        
        That's Euro-revisionism: "Everything's great!" says Iraqi genocide fatality... (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/21/2006 1:03:36 PM
        
        Read this (this is for the forum, not aimed at just REB) - ljk - 6/20/2006 5:36:18 PM
        
        re: Read this (this is for the forum, not aimed at just REB) - REB - 6/20/2006 5:40:59 PM
        
        North Korea is now crowing about its missile threat over Japan in 1998 - LJK - 6/22/2006 1:07:14 PM

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