You think so, eh?

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You think so, eh?

Mary Anne — 7/15/2006 2:41:57 AM (archived)

You underestimate the Arab head for business. Turn back religious tourists and their wallets? I think not.

Mecca and Medina are holy cities only for Muslims. They're also located in a nation that has been kept socially backward, on purpose, by its ruling class. Neither of these conditions is true of Jerusalem, nor were they true at the time of the foundation of Israel.

Whether you believe it or not, the Arabs of the eastern Mediterranean are a more cosmopolitan group, and had welcomed people of all religions before Israel was founded. That's why there was a Jewish community there for Israel to build on in the first place.

The Arabs of the eastern Mediterranean are wonderful at business. I doubt they would ever have closed their cities to pilgrims with money to spend.

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What if Israel had never existed? - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2006 6:34:42 PM
- re: What if Israel had never existed? - Publius - 7/16/2006 7:13:38 PM
  - I have no problem with the speculation. - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2006 12:32:06 AM
- Then there would be full-blown war with North Korea or the USSR most likely. - SDF - 7/16/2006 1:16:27 PM
  - Nuclear winter? - ER - 7/16/2006 6:08:10 PM
    - Nuclear winter is still ridiculed. - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2006 1:22:32 AM
      - By the same people. - ER - 7/17/2006 2:15:22 AM
        
        Wouldn't all those fires release CO2? (n/t) - Scott Evil - 7/19/2006 1:44:49 PM
        
        Also heavy soot that will fall down on whatever is handy. - alcaray - 7/19/2006 10:03:43 PM
        
        Ah ha! I figured it out... Polar Bears make yellow snow. - Scott Evil - 7/21/2006 1:43:09 PM
        
        You're absolutely right. - ER - 7/19/2006 2:11:50 PM
- A related point with domestic implications. - ER - 7/15/2006 8:13:40 PM
  - re: A related point with domestic implications. - gbaikie - 7/15/2006 11:03:49 PM
  - See my "a few more details" response below. - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2006 8:32:28 PM
- Similar post on Daily Kos - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2006 6:38:06 PM
  - If there were no Isreal, Jeruselam would be off limits to all non-muslims. - Scott Evil - 7/14/2006 9:27:38 PM
    - You think so, eh? - Mary Anne - 7/15/2006 2:41:57 AM
      - The history of 1948-1967 contradicts that notion - sz - 7/15/2006 4:42:35 AM
        
        By 1948, the Arabs, who had welcomed the Jews as immigrants in the decades between the world wars, were at war with Israel. - Mary Anne - 7/15/2006 2:27:01 PM
        
        In reality, the years between the wars - sz - 7/18/2006 4:37:00 AM
        
        A few more details - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2006 8:14:06 PM
        
        Also - Mary Anne - 7/16/2006 4:29:07 PM
        
        What about the other 25%? - Mary Anne - 7/16/2006 3:54:49 PM
        
        You're reaching. - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2006 12:31:17 AM
        
        You tell her Tom! - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/15/2006 9:02:19 PM
        
        Not "duking it out." Just pointing out facts. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/16/2006 12:53:37 AM
  - The problem with Israel... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/14/2006 7:36:28 PM
    - But many Zionists weren't, and aren't, religious - sz - 7/15/2006 4:26:35 AM
      - Exactly. That's the flaw in SDAI's view - Buck Galaxy - 7/15/2006 4:44:48 AM
        
        True, Buck, but... - ER - 7/15/2006 1:37:39 PM
        
        "Being Jewish isn't as much a religion as it is a culture" - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/15/2006 6:14:17 AM
        
        Uh oh....... - Lindy - 7/15/2006 3:00:57 PM
        
        No... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/15/2006 5:57:04 PM
    - Damn Tech1 - Lindy - 7/15/2006 3:47:28 AM
      - It's a miracle! - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/15/2006 3:56:57 AM
    - re: The problem with Israel... - Publius - 7/15/2006 1:15:50 AM
      - Eliminating theocratic states... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/15/2006 9:19:44 PM
    - re: The difference... - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2006 7:54:13 PM
      - That's why I support Israel. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/15/2006 3:44:08 AM
        
        Damn take two - Lindy - 7/15/2006 3:56:39 AM

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