"Being Jewish isn't as much a religion as it is a culture"

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"Being Jewish isn't as much a religion as it is a culture"

SDAI-Tech1 — 7/15/2006 6:14:17 AM (archived)

Jew=Yahuda
Israel=Jacob, grandson of Abraham.

The nation and "culture" are both named after key religious figures. Denial of the complete and total dominance of religion in both Israel's formation and current politics is either the result of a state of denial or merely trying to be disingenuous.

While, technically, the government may be secular, that really does not factor into Islam's hostilities towards the state and what it represents. Israel, to them, doesn't represent a "culture" but a collected group of people who share the Jewish faith.

While it may be popular for many Jews in Israel, North America and western nations to view Israel as a sort of PC cultural & religious smorgasboard gathered under the Israel banner - that, again, is NOT the way it is viewed by Islam or other nations not versed in such western PC conceptualizations.

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What if Israel had never existed? - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2006 6:34:42 PM
- re: What if Israel had never existed? - Publius - 7/16/2006 7:13:38 PM
  - I have no problem with the speculation. - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2006 12:32:06 AM
- Then there would be full-blown war with North Korea or the USSR most likely. - SDF - 7/16/2006 1:16:27 PM
  - Nuclear winter? - ER - 7/16/2006 6:08:10 PM
    - Nuclear winter is still ridiculed. - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2006 1:22:32 AM
      - By the same people. - ER - 7/17/2006 2:15:22 AM
        
        Wouldn't all those fires release CO2? (n/t) - Scott Evil - 7/19/2006 1:44:49 PM
        
        Also heavy soot that will fall down on whatever is handy. - alcaray - 7/19/2006 10:03:43 PM
        
        Ah ha! I figured it out... Polar Bears make yellow snow. - Scott Evil - 7/21/2006 1:43:09 PM
        
        You're absolutely right. - ER - 7/19/2006 2:11:50 PM
- A related point with domestic implications. - ER - 7/15/2006 8:13:40 PM
  - re: A related point with domestic implications. - gbaikie - 7/15/2006 11:03:49 PM
  - See my "a few more details" response below. - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2006 8:32:28 PM
- Similar post on Daily Kos - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2006 6:38:06 PM
  - If there were no Isreal, Jeruselam would be off limits to all non-muslims. - Scott Evil - 7/14/2006 9:27:38 PM
    - You think so, eh? - Mary Anne - 7/15/2006 2:41:57 AM
      - The history of 1948-1967 contradicts that notion - sz - 7/15/2006 4:42:35 AM
        
        By 1948, the Arabs, who had welcomed the Jews as immigrants in the decades between the world wars, were at war with Israel. - Mary Anne - 7/15/2006 2:27:01 PM
        
        In reality, the years between the wars - sz - 7/18/2006 4:37:00 AM
        
        A few more details - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2006 8:14:06 PM
        
        Also - Mary Anne - 7/16/2006 4:29:07 PM
        
        What about the other 25%? - Mary Anne - 7/16/2006 3:54:49 PM
        
        You're reaching. - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2006 12:31:17 AM
        
        You tell her Tom! - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/15/2006 9:02:19 PM
        
        Not "duking it out." Just pointing out facts. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/16/2006 12:53:37 AM
  - The problem with Israel... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/14/2006 7:36:28 PM
    - But many Zionists weren't, and aren't, religious - sz - 7/15/2006 4:26:35 AM
      - Exactly. That's the flaw in SDAI's view - Buck Galaxy - 7/15/2006 4:44:48 AM
        
        True, Buck, but... - ER - 7/15/2006 1:37:39 PM
        
        "Being Jewish isn't as much a religion as it is a culture" - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/15/2006 6:14:17 AM
        
        Uh oh....... - Lindy - 7/15/2006 3:00:57 PM
        
        No... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/15/2006 5:57:04 PM
    - Damn Tech1 - Lindy - 7/15/2006 3:47:28 AM
      - It's a miracle! - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/15/2006 3:56:57 AM
    - re: The problem with Israel... - Publius - 7/15/2006 1:15:50 AM
      - Eliminating theocratic states... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/15/2006 9:19:44 PM
    - re: The difference... - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2006 7:54:13 PM
      - That's why I support Israel. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/15/2006 3:44:08 AM
        
        Damn take two - Lindy - 7/15/2006 3:56:39 AM

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