There are lots of thoughts on this...

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There are lots of thoughts on this...

ARRELL — 6/12/2007 12:55:12 AM (archived)

One- that I find quite believable- is that it is simply being diagnosed more, remember when Ritalin was being hailed as a miracle drug and all of a sudden ADHD diagnoses skyrocketed? I am not implying a conspiracy here, what happened was the discovery of Ritalin gave people the idea that their kid's behavioral problems could be treated by a drug (instead of the parents actually acting like parents), and doctors were given a drug that claimed to tread behavioral problems- and so we saw news stories over the years that ADHD was skyrocketing in America.

30 years ago, many kids that would be diagnosed as AUTISTIC today, would have been labled 'developmentally disabled', or 'brain damaged'... The increased use of a label does is not the same as the increased rate of a disease.

One thing some of the loons claim as proof is that Autism has increased with immunization rates- this is an asinine argument; CORRELATION DOES NOT MEAN CAUSATION!!!!

Autism rates have also increased with the number of CD players in America, the speed of computers, the number of blonde news anchors, and the number of reported crop circles.... This does not indicate there is a causal relation.

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Childhood vaccines - Jody - 6/11/2007 10:40:35 PM
- If you want data more recent than a 1930's memo... - ARRELL - 6/12/2007 2:07:46 AM
  - I suggest that the people making these claims are evil... - ARRELL - 6/13/2007 2:09:17 AM
    - The lawyer-types, maybe. - TB - 6/13/2007 4:33:38 AM
    - Why do you think they don't believe their own claims? (n/t) - alcaray - 6/13/2007 3:21:18 AM
      - Do you believe them? - ARRELL - 6/13/2007 6:21:38 AM
        
        I thought you might have some evidence I had not noticed. That's why I asked. - alcaray - 6/13/2007 6:58:52 PM
        
        Part of the problem....... - Lindy - 6/18/2007 5:24:59 PM
- ELY LILY admits lawsuits from damage - Lindy - 6/12/2007 1:36:02 AM
  - Vaccine-autism battle shifts to federal court - Lindy - 6/12/2007 1:40:41 AM
- NO VALID STUDY supports this asinine claim... - DISGUSTED ARRELL - 6/11/2007 10:54:28 PM
  - re: NO VALID STUDY supports this asinine claim... - Jody - 6/12/2007 12:41:36 AM
    - Okay...I have been behind the power curve of common sense a FEW times... - Jody - 6/12/2007 1:42:17 PM
  - More... - ARRELL - 6/11/2007 11:12:35 PM
    - I agree, actually...however autism is on the rise... - Jody - 6/12/2007 12:26:59 AM
      - I tend to put the link with illicit drug use, not vaccines. - Lee - 6/12/2007 3:24:25 AM
        
        Legal drugs have been a bigger problem. - Mary Anne - 6/17/2007 7:31:23 PM
      - I always have thoughts - Eri - 6/12/2007 2:20:58 AM
        
        However, the fact remains... - TB - 6/12/2007 3:43:51 AM
        
        They died, yes - Eri - 6/13/2007 2:01:11 AM
        
        You don't get it. - TB - 6/13/2007 4:35:34 AM
        
        No, YOU don't get it - Eri - 6/14/2007 12:33:43 AM
        
        Getting it. - TB - 6/14/2007 4:05:50 AM
        
        Statistics? - Eri - 6/15/2007 2:31:50 AM
        
        Beware Eri.... - Jody - 6/15/2007 11:23:30 AM
        
        With his head up his statistics... - Eri - 6/15/2007 11:30:21 PM
        
        Just for fun... - TB - 6/16/2007 5:38:37 AM
        
        For your browsing pleasure - Eri - 6/16/2007 3:29:49 PM
        
        re: For your browsing pleasure - TB - 6/16/2007 7:14:00 PM
        
        Facts matter but so does passion - Eri - 6/16/2007 9:52:47 PM
        
        I understand the facts, TB - Jody - 6/16/2007 8:45:16 PM
        
        "Someday when I have time..." - TB - 6/17/2007 3:59:40 AM
        
        Okay, Dr. Dolittle... - Jody - 6/17/2007 5:34:12 AM
        
        Links to what? - TB - 6/18/2007 12:07:04 AM
        
        Well, you asked others so turn about and all that.. (n/t) - Eri - 6/18/2007 3:11:40 AM
        
        In other words... - TB - 6/15/2007 5:00:40 PM
        
        Nope...never said it was - Jody - 6/15/2007 5:06:28 PM
        
        re: Nope...never said it was - TB - 6/15/2007 6:45:05 PM
        
        Nuclear energy - Mary Anne - 6/17/2007 4:38:41 PM
        
        Something to think about. - TB - 6/18/2007 1:47:04 AM
        
        Oh, look. You did it again. - Mary Anne - 6/18/2007 11:08:33 AM
        
        One more comment - TB - 6/18/2007 3:52:52 PM
        
        ROFLMAO! - Eri - 6/19/2007 2:27:46 AM
        
        I was talking about the woman in Mary Anne's example. (n/t) - TB - 6/19/2007 7:08:58 AM
        
        Of course you had one more comment...well so do I. - Jody - 6/18/2007 10:54:04 PM
        
        Sorry TB - Jody - 6/19/2007 7:32:45 PM
        
        I can not endure such a fustian rascal. - Jody - 6/18/2007 4:06:25 AM
        
        No, you haven't got it, you only think you have - Eri - 6/18/2007 3:17:08 AM
        
        I know, Tom...and I really - Jody - 6/15/2007 7:15:04 PM
        
        Thanks! - TB - 6/15/2007 7:58:36 PM
        
        Make that "'she' lives." (n/t) - TB - 6/15/2007 5:01:39 PM
        
        Whew - Eri - 6/15/2007 11:32:58 PM
        
        Name the city. - TB - 6/15/2007 6:03:30 AM
        
        re: Name the city. - Eri - 6/15/2007 11:44:57 PM
        
        I had to give up the fried cheese sticks (dipped in marinara). - alcaray - 6/13/2007 7:04:04 PM
        
        I KNOW what you mean! - Jody - 6/13/2007 7:30:13 PM
        
        re: I KNOW what you mean! - alcaray - 6/13/2007 7:52:45 PM
        
        Long ago... - ARRELL - 6/12/2007 4:01:03 AM
        
        re: Long ago... - TB - 6/12/2007 4:05:31 AM
      - and asthma, and many forms of cancer - alcaray - 6/12/2007 1:03:22 AM
      - There are lots of thoughts on this... - ARRELL - 6/12/2007 12:55:12 AM
    - Vulture attorneys - TB - 6/12/2007 12:06:08 AM
      - I think it would be tough to find many children NOT vaccinated... - ARRELL - 6/12/2007 2:42:13 AM
        
        Science - TB - 6/12/2007 3:39:59 AM
        
        Tom, I am on the left- do you honestly think I fit into your broad generalization? - ARRELL - 6/12/2007 7:28:51 PM
        
        No. - TB - 6/12/2007 9:35:56 PM
        
        Tom, you need to get out and play with others more - Arrell - 6/12/2007 11:17:48 PM
        
        "limited grasp of reality?" - TB - 6/13/2007 8:54:08 PM
        
        Tom, this nonsense crosses party lines - Arrell - 6/12/2007 3:47:55 AM
        
        On this particular one, you're right. - TB - 6/12/2007 4:02:10 AM
        
        Checks and Balances - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/12/2007 5:27:04 AM
        
        I work in a medical-related industry - Eri - 6/20/2007 12:22:45 AM
        
        That's just informed consent verbiage. - alcaray - 6/12/2007 8:19:12 PM
        
        Its true of most of these whack job theories - ARRELL - 6/12/2007 4:15:09 AM
        
        re: Its true of most of these whack job theories - TB - 6/12/2007 4:30:50 AM
        
        I have to agree... - ARRELL - 6/12/2007 4:42:02 AM
        
        "clearly proven" Heh. - TB - 6/12/2007 5:06:32 AM
        
        Tom, you KNOW that I have spent a lot of time looking at this issue... DROPPING THIS ISSUE, START ANOTHER THREAD - ARRELL - 6/12/2007 5:15:45 AM
        
        I did. Check Flame. - TB - 6/12/2007 7:00:25 PM
        
        Oh and as for GM food... - ARRELL - 6/12/2007 4:49:30 AM
        
        I have missed this one... - Jody - 6/12/2007 1:15:29 PM
        
        ALL your food has been genetically modified - Arrell - 6/12/2007 7:07:47 PM
        
        I will look it up... (n/t) - Jody - 6/12/2007 2:20:42 PM

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