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" "Alpha" is a technical term that's become common usage, referring to the person or creature that's at the apex of the pyramid formed by social species such as wolves and most primates. Some social species show distinct sexual specialization, in primates showing up as a flashy male social hierarchy and a parallel, more low-key, female social hierarchy. The association of "alpha" with "alpha male" came about because early primatologists noticed the male hierarchy first, wrote about it, and only after years more study did they start to see the outline of the female hierarchy. Technically "alpha" is genderless."

Uh... so what?

"In the pure form of a male social hierarchy, one of the perks of being at the top is more than one's fair share of females. Thus has it always been, and for impeccably good scientific reasons: It benefits the species as a whole for its fittest members, who demonstrate their fitness relative to others in the group by clawing their way to the top, to pass on a larger share of their successful genes than the genes of the less-successful competitors. Internal competition is just as useful as external competition as far as evolution is concerned.

The overlay of moral condemnation implied by your question is a recent and artificial development indeed. Up until very recently, feudal hierarchies recognized le droit signeur, "the right of kings", to basically have their pick of all the available females in the kingdom."

So, you base right and wrong on past human behavior and/or animal behavior?
Should bring back Roman animal and human killing for public entertainment?

I guess this demonstrate a further example of how the term progressive is actually meaningless and/or means the opposite of *commonly* accepted meaning.

"That's why the outrage of Republicans over Clinton's acceptance as the alpha male of the favors of a beta female seems either a cynical pose or evidence of utter cluelessness about human nature. Given the seemingly unending stream of scandals about the sexual escapades of Republican politicians, I'd have to vote for cynicism. The alpha male Republicans most naturally inclined to defend "the way things were meant to be" instead are wracked by guilt. I often feel sorry for you guys for all the suffering you inflict upon yourselves."

Well I don't accept this silly analysis, but I guess, you do agree that you see Clinton is an alpha. That was the main thing I was interested in. Can we also assume for the future discussions that most if not all Presidents will be seen by the public as alpha- and therefore is rather useless as a term describing any one of them as way distinguishing them?

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