more info about your alleged debunker of global warming

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more info about your alleged debunker of global warming

pwokenyaw — 3/17/2008 2:11:18 PM (archived)

It's here:

http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/global_warming/mckitrick/

I like the stuff about "there's no such thing as average global temperature". Apparently it's anyone's guess whether Venus is warmer or colder than Earth.

A good and much more fair summary of the hockey stick issue is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey_stick_controversy

Mostly the controversy is a bunch of nonsense by denialists, and is only one of many lines of evidence pointing to global warming (modern temp records, models, theory, arctic warming, ice borehole temps).

Let us know when you have something new to say.

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A summary of Hockey stick - gbaikie - 3/17/2008 4:53:17 AM
- more info about your alleged debunker of global warming - pwokenyaw - 3/17/2008 2:11:18 PM
  - Average temperatures - TB - 3/18/2008 2:53:20 AM
    - re: Average temperatures - pwokenyaw - 3/18/2008 2:26:02 PM
      - re: Average temperatures - gbaikie - 3/18/2008 10:36:06 PM
      - No, we couldn't. - SDAI-Tech1 - 3/18/2008 3:07:06 PM
    - re: Average temperatures - gbaikie - 3/18/2008 3:09:16 AM
      - re" little wooden boxes painted white... - TAFAKSE - 3/18/2008 3:25:13 AM
        
        We have less than nothing. - SDAI-Tech1 - 3/18/2008 4:15:59 AM
        
        re: There can be no "scientific" debate at this point. - Yeti - 3/18/2008 2:08:40 PM
        
        They won't put their money where their mouths are, either - pwokenyaw - 3/18/2008 2:27:38 PM
        
        By you logic we are putting not only our money where our mouth is...But the entire planet where our mouth is. - TAFKASE - 3/19/2008 9:35:17 PM
        
        re: They won't put their money where their mouths are, either - gbaikie - 3/18/2008 11:55:53 PM
        
        re: They won't put their money where their mouths are, either - pwokenyaw - 3/19/2008 3:43:27 AM
  - re: more info about your alleged debunker of global warming - gbaikie - 3/17/2008 7:57:30 PM
    - re: more info about your alleged debunker of global warming - pwokenyaw - 3/17/2008 8:12:19 PM
      - re: more info about your alleged debunker of global warming - gbaikie - 3/17/2008 8:33:22 PM
        
        Can somebody post a picture of this Mann guy... - TAFKASE - 3/18/2008 1:20:12 AM
  - Seems that review of the criticism is mired in legitimate controversey - phil - 3/17/2008 5:18:33 PM
  - He and TB get their talking points from right wing blogs... - ARRELL - 3/17/2008 3:43:32 PM
    - You're starting to yap. - TB - 3/17/2008 4:10:17 PM
      - No, you are swalloing conspiracy BS - ARRELL - 3/17/2008 6:45:15 PM
        
        re: conspiracy BS - TB - 3/17/2008 8:50:10 PM
        
        Who is John Galt? - S d'anconia 1 - 3/17/2008 10:17:17 PM
        
        I'm just curious... do you EVER have anything of value to add... - ARRELL - 3/17/2008 10:24:08 PM
        
        I know the value of my contributions. - S d'Anconia 1 - 3/17/2008 10:31:38 PM
        
        Yes, lets look at the Discover interview... - ARRELL - 3/17/2008 9:24:24 PM
        
        re: Discover interview... - TB - 3/18/2008 2:22:24 AM
        
        As I said before- I read the paper, the criticism, and their reponse to the criticism... - ARRELL - 3/18/2008 2:50:32 AM
        
        If anything, it would seem they got quite a bit MORE exposure BECAUSE of their claims (n/t) - ARRELL - 3/18/2008 3:23:28 AM
        
        I'm sorry, was this about publicity? - TB - 3/18/2008 3:33:29 AM
        
        you were claiming that their work was being supressed - ARRELL - 3/18/2008 3:39:09 AM
        
        No. I wasn't. - TB - 3/18/2008 3:51:49 PM
        
        So, you can criticize and slander the consensus, and they have to shut up and take it... - ARRELL - 3/18/2008 10:10:28 PM
        
        So much for the 'Vast warming conspiracy'- pathetic - ARRELL - 3/18/2008 12:53:12 AM
        
        link - ARRELL - 3/17/2008 9:26:19 PM
        
        re: No, you are swalloing conspiracy BS - gbaikie - 3/17/2008 8:15:05 PM
        
        LOL, more pudding? Another slam dunk - ARRELL - 3/17/2008 8:34:54 PM
        
        link - ARRELL - 3/17/2008 8:36:19 PM
        
        re: link - gbaikie - 3/18/2008 2:20:37 AM
        
        So, Peiser made claims he couldn't back up, and had to retract them - ARRELL - 3/18/2008 2:27:17 AM
        
        re: So, Peiser made claims he couldn't back up, and had to retract them - gbaikie - 3/18/2008 2:43:13 AM
        
        nope, not even you are as stupid as you are pretending to be... - ARRELL - 3/18/2008 3:01:51 AM
        
        re: nope, not even you are as stupid as you are pretending to be... - gbaikie - 3/18/2008 8:50:52 AM
        
        re: "Maybe, women just have the inalienable right to change things as they go along." - Yeti - 3/18/2008 2:11:41 PM
        
        Thanks - gbaikie - 3/18/2008 10:39:14 PM
        
        Moderator:This had no business being moved - ARRELL - 3/17/2008 7:26:28 PM
        
        And I moved the discussion about the removal from space to community (n/t) - Raoul moderating - 3/18/2008 5:35:54 AM

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