Given that the computer models of the IPCC accurately predict reality, the results may be as they predict.
Meanwhile:
This is Greenland this year.
Scientists working in Antarctica believe in AGW, but have a more complex view of what might happen down there. Antarctic sea ice extent has been hitting record levels, and they don't seem to think Antarctica is going to melt even if the IPCC temperatures do come true.
The overall planetary sea ice extent right now is actually above the 1979-2000 mean, after hitting a huge low last year. I have no idea why there has been such a huge swing. Oddly, the big melt last year was universally considered a Sign of the End. The massive freeze this year? Just a glitch. Go figure.
None of these items is proof that things are NOT going to go the way the IPCC predicts. But the environment does not seem to want to neatly follow the script, either. I've noticed the same thing with the ozone hole.
We need to be careful, and not make this a crusade.
The tendency of governments in a perceived crisis is to respond with something amazingly stupid and counterproductive. We almost did something amazingly stupid with the first Kyoto Agreement, and those who did sign it aren't doing so well with it now. There are even more stupid ideas out there. I quoted a paper not long ago declaring that we're all doomed if we don't reduce our carbon output to zero.
I have no problems with reasonable actions to move us away from burning fossil fuels. There are valid reasons to do this even if CO2 was no issue at all. But keep things reasonable, and remember that the map isn't the territory.
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re: Global Warming and Sea Level Change
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- Part 1: Global Warming and Sea Level Change READ TO THE END before responding
- Temperature rise
- How much new arable land becomes available due to a global warming cycle?
- For temperature rise on the low side of the range...
- The world will definitely be worse, much worse.
- re: Part 1: Global Warming and Sea Level Change READ TO THE END before responding
- Thermocline and temperature structure of the ocean
- Thermal expansion of ocean water.
- re: Global Warming and Sea Level Change
- re the antarctica data...
- Okay, are you sure you put the right link?
- I will go over the points in detail later today, but let me just say this now
- sea ice extent currently is BELOW the recent mean
- Ocean temperature update
- Arrrrgh, not sure how it became IIPC it should read IPCC (n/t)
