Just pondering....

Jody — 6/3/2009 2:40:15 PM (archived)

What if Aliens are and have always been and are here? Then the hard evidence is hiding in plain sight .
Maybe They have traveled light years...already? They reside nearby. What is nearby?
Are we any smarter than our ancestors?.. Why did they look to the stars? Maybe *All that is* is what can be thought... and observed..bringing the dichotemy to a balance. What are we missing? Are we afraid that there could be more than 'this'? What are the ramifications of that? Are we afraid to believe...and why is 'to believe' such a bad thing...it does not *always* negate or diminish ..it defines....it can teach... it can allow growth...My reality is uncomfortably being challeged daily...and stretched to perceive things that were UNTHOUGHT of before.

We claim on various levels to be open minded. We are as open minded as truths are revealed and allow us to be. Why must reality be confined to *is*...and stretch ourselves to what can be? Why are some people closed off to only the provable...what comfort is realized in this?

Maybe it truly is *all and everything* some people claim [but can not prove]....they just thought of it first.

Why does 'proof' determine what is, when *what is* is growing everyday? Why must *that* determine *MY* reality? What is free thinking?

I am NOT talking incoherent nut jobs...I am talking about people like the Zoners...a cross section of the reasonable...

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Just pondering.... - Jody - 6/3/2009 2:40:15 PM
- re: Just pondering.... - Johannes - 6/4/2009 6:03:02 PM
  - Thank you J ... - Jody - 6/5/2009 2:47:27 AM
  - re: re:Reason is missing :-) - Johannes - 6/4/2009 7:19:45 PM
- We are "stretched to perceive things that were UNTHOUGHT of before" - Lindy - 6/4/2009 5:58:46 PM
  - Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder - Lindy - 6/5/2009 1:50:56 PM
    - re: Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder - Jody - 6/5/2009 4:14:05 PM
- Short reply - S - 6/4/2009 12:23:04 AM
  - "It's possible" - Jody - 6/4/2009 11:55:08 PM
    - Oh...and... - Jody - 6/5/2009 12:19:59 AM
      - Thank you - S - 6/5/2009 12:42:14 AM
- re: Just pondering.... - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/3/2009 8:54:18 PM
  - Heh... - Jody - 6/5/2009 12:00:48 AM
    - hyper drive... - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/5/2009 12:10:28 AM
      - Normal... - Jody - 6/5/2009 12:36:26 AM
        
        See... - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/5/2009 12:56:55 AM
  - OK Tech1 - Lindy - 6/4/2009 6:31:39 PM
    - Good question! - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/4/2009 10:46:42 PM
      - A couple of points - Eri - 6/6/2009 6:22:12 AM
        
        re: A couple of points - Lindy - 6/6/2009 12:58:56 PM
      - SDAI...SDAI... - Jody - 6/5/2009 12:08:05 AM
  - Not a dream to me. - Eri - 6/4/2009 3:50:49 AM
    - Timothy Leary's dead - azstrummer - 6/4/2009 4:46:33 AM
      - Nope, no freaky stuff. - Eri - 6/5/2009 3:54:14 AM
      - Creepy smiles - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/4/2009 6:45:23 AM
        
        I knew it..... (n/t) - azstrummer - 6/4/2009 1:47:38 PM
        
        re: I knew it..... - Lindy - 6/4/2009 6:04:43 PM
- Doubt and openness - Raoul - 6/3/2009 5:02:38 PM
  - re: Doubt and openness - Jody - 6/3/2009 5:23:17 PM
- re: Just pondering.... - azstrummer - 6/3/2009 4:16:21 PM
  - Something all zealots have in common. - ER - 6/3/2009 11:46:33 PM
    - I don't feel I am a zealot... - Jody - 6/5/2009 2:41:29 AM
      - "I will get past this need to express..." - Lindy - 6/5/2009 3:40:30 AM
      - You are definitely not a zealot. - ER - 6/5/2009 2:56:09 AM
        
        "we certainly don't know whether or not there's a prize if you win. " - Lindy - 6/5/2009 3:42:23 AM
    - " But some of us cannot afford to be wrong about anything. " - Lindy - 6/4/2009 6:09:32 PM
      - Not even close. - ER - 6/5/2009 12:43:42 AM
  - My own opinion... - ER - 6/3/2009 10:09:12 PM
    - The real selling point about Christianity in its early days - Socrates II - 6/4/2009 7:21:53 PM
      - You're absolutely right. - ER - 6/5/2009 12:50:16 AM
  - Everybody has their own fantasies - TB - 6/3/2009 8:26:48 PM
    - NO kidding TB!! - Jody - 6/5/2009 12:39:06 AM
  - Jesus... - Jody - 6/3/2009 5:15:35 PM
    - Jesus never asked to be worshiped - Eri - 6/4/2009 3:56:03 AM
      - I know Eri... it seems that - Jody - 6/5/2009 12:06:58 AM
        
        That's true, they "needed" to worship him - Eri - 6/5/2009 4:02:00 AM
- re: Just pondering.... - ER - 6/3/2009 3:41:20 PM
  - Not valid questions.. - Jody - 6/3/2009 5:21:49 PM
- Ponder this. - Bowser - 6/3/2009 3:03:26 PM
  - We have met the alien and he is us. - Jody - 6/3/2009 5:19:47 PM
    - As Polish SF author Stanislaw Lem once said... - Socrates II - 6/3/2009 6:35:06 PM
      - Another beauty - Lindy - 6/4/2009 6:43:30 PM
        
        Jellyfish from the air - Lindy - 6/5/2009 7:33:55 PM
        
        re: Another beauty - Lindy - 6/4/2009 6:45:53 PM
        
        re: Another beauty - Lindy - 6/4/2009 6:48:09 PM
        
        re: Another beauty - Lindy - 6/4/2009 6:49:42 PM
      - Many incentives - S - 6/4/2009 12:38:10 AM
        
        re: Many incentives - Lindy - 6/4/2009 6:17:21 PM
        
        Yes - S - 6/5/2009 12:47:36 AM
        
        re: Yes and yes - Lindy - 6/5/2009 3:47:10 AM
        
        To clarify - Socrates II - 6/4/2009 1:53:09 PM
        
        And more - S - 6/4/2009 11:58:40 PM
        
        re: And more 2 - Socrates II - 6/5/2009 3:03:56 PM
        
        And I too - S - 6/4/2009 10:43:02 PM
        
        Assuming aliens would want to do those things - Socrates II - 6/5/2009 2:34:18 PM
        
        Assuming Aliens - S - 6/5/2009 11:33:47 PM
        
        I am not dismissing all UFO reports - Socrates II - 6/6/2009 3:09:29 AM
        
        Nicely put (n/t) - Lindy - 6/6/2009 1:43:55 AM
      - Good point - TB - 6/3/2009 8:28:26 PM
      - You and I SocratesII... - Jody - 6/3/2009 7:31:07 PM
        
        You're welcome and... - Socrates II - 6/4/2009 3:04:29 PM

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