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TB — 9/10/2011 6:33:05 PM (archived)

Rushkoff is wrong. Dead wrong. I won't even mention his ignorance of history.

There is no "America" producing goods and services. There are people doing this.

Who decides what a "fair" distribution is of what "America" produces? Who decides who's going to be at the grindstone and who's going to be among the Virtuous Leisured Class? Who gets to decide who are going to be the goddam Morlocks and who the Eloi?

Three guesses.

There is no "algorithm." There is a system that is based on the freedom to act and the freedom to trade, and the right to what one produces. This is why we have abundance, and societies run the way Rushkoff wants are poverty-stricken hellholes, or heading that way.

The only difference between what Rushkoff is thinking and the setup in ancient classical civilization is that modern productive technology means you can have fewer slaves.

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"Are jobs obsolete?" - Robert - 9/10/2011 1:33:13 AM
- Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - TB - 9/11/2011 6:43:57 PM
- Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - ER - 9/11/2011 12:04:05 PM
  - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - TB - 9/11/2011 3:13:06 PM
    - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - ER - 9/11/2011 3:28:39 PM
      - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - TB - 9/11/2011 6:14:12 PM
        
        Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - ER - 9/11/2011 7:27:46 PM
- Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - TB - 9/10/2011 9:28:06 PM
- Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - TB - 9/10/2011 8:12:42 PM
  - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - ER - 9/10/2011 8:57:27 PM
    - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - TB - 9/10/2011 9:19:37 PM
      - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - ER - 9/11/2011 12:23:49 PM
    - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - ER - 9/10/2011 9:16:13 PM
- Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - TB - 9/10/2011 6:47:18 PM
- Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - ER - 9/10/2011 4:27:02 PM
  - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - Jody - 9/10/2011 4:39:39 PM
    - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - ER - 9/10/2011 4:46:20 PM
  - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - Jody - 9/10/2011 4:35:48 PM
    - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - ER - 9/10/2011 7:53:06 PM
      - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - TB - 9/10/2011 8:45:15 PM
        
        Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - ER - 9/10/2011 9:31:01 PM
        
        Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - TB - 9/11/2011 1:57:07 AM
        
        Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - ER - 9/11/2011 11:26:16 AM
        
        Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - TB - 9/11/2011 6:19:20 PM
        
        Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - TB - 9/10/2011 9:38:14 PM
- Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - TB - 9/10/2011 2:27:57 AM
  - Define "impossible". - Robert - 9/10/2011 5:46:36 PM
    - Re: Define "impossible". - TB - 9/10/2011 6:33:05 PM
    - Re: Define "impossible". - Jody - 9/10/2011 5:51:17 PM
      - Re: Define "impossible". - Robert - 9/10/2011 6:21:05 PM
        
        Re: Define "impossible". - FrankC - 9/11/2011 10:09:38 PM
        
        Re: Define "impossible". - Jody - 9/11/2011 1:06:16 AM
        
        You forgot the one about liberals eating their children. - Robert - 9/11/2011 1:20:17 AM
        
        Re: You forgot the one about liberals eating their children. - TB - 9/11/2011 2:01:26 AM
        
        No, that is exactly how I respond to a smear. - Robert - 9/11/2011 3:31:43 AM
        
        Re: No, that is exactly how I respond to a smear. - Jody - 9/11/2011 9:11:55 PM
        
        "Cathartic" means using other people as punching bags. That's really nothing to be proud of. - Robert - 9/12/2011 3:46:29 PM
        
        Re: "Cathartic" means using other people as punching bags. That's really nothing to be proud of. - Jody - 9/12/2011 5:45:55 PM
        
        Re: "Cathartic" means using other people as punching bags. That's really nothing to be proud of. - Jody - 9/12/2011 7:23:49 PM
        
        Re: "Cathartic" means using other people as punching bags. That's really nothing to be proud of. - TB - 9/12/2011 4:46:46 PM
        
        Re: No, that is exactly how I respond to a smear. - TB - 9/11/2011 6:04:39 PM
        
        Re: Define "impossible". - TB - 9/10/2011 6:34:33 PM
        
        Straw men, TB. - Robert - 9/10/2011 8:54:29 PM
        
        Re: Straw men, TB. - TB - 9/10/2011 9:11:00 PM
        
        Re: Define "impossible". - ER - 9/10/2011 7:03:18 PM
        
        Re: Define "impossible". - TB - 9/10/2011 7:15:28 PM
        
        Re: Define "impossible". - ER - 9/10/2011 7:43:35 PM
  - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - ER - 9/10/2011 2:07:28 PM
    - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - TB - 9/10/2011 4:49:24 PM
      - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - ER - 9/10/2011 4:55:03 PM
        
        Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - TB - 9/10/2011 5:02:57 PM
        
        Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - ER - 9/10/2011 5:22:16 PM
        
        Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - TB - 9/10/2011 5:34:14 PM
        
        Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - ER - 9/10/2011 6:02:07 PM
  - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - Jody - 9/10/2011 2:45:13 AM
    - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - Robert - 9/10/2011 6:03:12 PM
    - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - TB - 9/10/2011 2:58:25 AM
    - Re: "Are jobs obsolete?" - Jody - 9/10/2011 2:45:50 AM

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