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What the hell are we doing. - RobVG - 9/8/2013 4:07:37 PM
- More and more, I agree and when I start essentially agreeing with Bowser... - FrankC - 9/8/2013 5:51:33 PM

One good thing to take away from the Syrian crisis. - ER - 9/7/2013 1:54:02 PM
- I hate a situation where doing the right thing is not in our best interest - FrankC - 9/7/2013 6:29:03 PM
  - You may be outraged at this... - ER - 9/8/2013 12:48:38 PM
  - The "right thing" is debatable. - bowser - 9/8/2013 1:31:34 AM
    - You've left one thing out, Bowz. - ER - 9/8/2013 1:09:44 PM
  - Isn't that usually the case? - ER - 9/7/2013 9:14:54 PM

Saving the GOP from the Teahadists. - BuckGalaxy - 9/8/2013 1:53:17 AM
- The article discusses tactics and ideology, - ER - 9/8/2013 2:29:54 AM

Petraeus "All In" on Syria strikes. - ER - 9/7/2013 9:43:44 PM
- One more political general with a big PR section. - bowser - 9/8/2013 1:23:16 AM

WalMart Workers Walk Out - RobVG - 9/6/2013 2:38:31 AM
- How do you think the dwindling middle class was formed in the US? - bowser - 9/6/2013 2:45:24 AM
  - I know how they came about. - RobVG - 9/6/2013 3:15:41 AM
    - Unions and small merchants. - bowser - 9/6/2013 6:45:12 AM
      - Be patient, Bowz. - ER - 9/6/2013 5:10:44 PM
        
        These people think this country became great - - - - bowser - 9/6/2013 10:34:53 PM

So Scary it Reads Like Fiction. - RobVG - 9/6/2013 3:31:02 AM
- If you're not doing anything wrong, what's the problem? - ER - 9/6/2013 1:05:56 PM
- Wow. I suspect it is true, no one would make it up. - bowser - 9/6/2013 6:47:23 AM
  - Bowser...I haven't felt safe for a very very long time. - Jody - 9/6/2013 2:25:14 PM

Vedy good - Jody - 9/5/2013 2:37:20 PM
- It's not John Cleese - RobVG - 9/5/2013 11:51:21 PM
- Welcome back to 430 BC. - johannes - 9/5/2013 6:57:43 PM
  - :) - Jody - 9/5/2013 8:20:04 PM

Fast Food workers going to strike tomorrow. - Jody - 8/29/2013 2:30:21 AM
- Inflation will even things out in the end. - RobVG - 8/29/2013 2:45:15 PM
  - Not if there is already an imbalance - BuckGalaxy - 9/3/2013 9:42:03 PM
  - Why do you bother? - TB - 8/30/2013 10:27:29 PM
    - I remember - Jody - 8/31/2013 2:38:51 PM
    - Because our Mama's said common sense always prevails. - Jody - 8/30/2013 10:55:42 PM
      - No, it doesn't. - TB - 8/31/2013 3:33:45 PM
        
        Loopholes - SteveS - 8/31/2013 7:18:48 PM
        
        Passing your link along.... - Jody - 8/31/2013 3:43:51 PM
        
        O...M...G. TOM! - Jody - 8/31/2013 3:40:51 PM
  - Then why worry about it? - Robert - 8/30/2013 5:18:56 PM
    - Funny math - SteveS - 8/31/2013 3:59:16 PM
    - Pull your head out for a second and take a breath. - RobVG - 8/31/2013 3:29:51 AM
      - Unknot your knickers and unclench - Robert - 9/1/2013 4:56:20 AM
        
        It's a bigger pond. - RobVG - 9/1/2013 6:03:25 PM
        
        and not a zero-sum game - Robert - 9/2/2013 8:50:46 PM
        
        You got it all wrong. - RobVG - 9/4/2013 12:13:39 AM
        
        No problem - Robert - 9/4/2013 6:25:05 PM
        
        Unfortunately, - ER - 9/5/2013 12:56:20 AM
  - Well, let's look around. - bowser - 8/30/2013 2:06:52 AM
    - Oh what the hell, let's make sure everyone get's $50,000 a year. No more, no less. n/t - RobVG - 8/30/2013 2:49:33 AM
      - I get G-dd----d sick and tired of that nonsense! (But it's a good idea.) - bowser - 8/30/2013 3:52:49 AM
    - To put it politely, you need to study US economics more, and Marx less. n/t - RobVG - 8/30/2013 2:48:02 AM
      - To put it politely, you need to respect the working poor more and worship the dollar less. - bowser - 8/30/2013 3:53:45 AM
        
        Give it up, Bow. They fawn over the wealthy, hate working folks and won't change. - bowser - 8/30/2013 3:57:41 AM
        
        I am the working poor you idjit. And I know what's not going to work. n/t - RobVG - 8/30/2013 4:36:38 AM
  - Yea. People who try to increase their income are stupid. - alcaray - 8/29/2013 11:24:47 PM
    - I think they are stupid. - ER - 8/30/2013 3:29:53 AM
    - Great, I'll go ask my boss to double my pay tomorrow. - RobVG - 8/30/2013 1:21:12 AM
    - Geez al, where did he say they are stupid. It is just those who don't understand Econ I... - FrankC - 8/30/2013 12:27:47 AM
      - He seemed to say that it is futile to raise your income because inflation will eat it up anyway. - alcaray - 8/30/2013 3:24:41 AM
        
        Was that pun intended - SteveS - 8/31/2013 7:20:20 PM

Kodak emerges from bankruptcy- I told you so. - RobVG - 9/4/2013 2:47:12 AM
- I'll bet they aren't making many buggy whips anymore. - bowser - 9/4/2013 5:36:25 AM

Is this for real? - Jody - 9/2/2013 3:01:27 PM
- It does smell, AND did we learn anything from our Iraq experience? - bowser - 9/2/2013 8:03:40 PM
- It smells. - ER - 9/2/2013 5:31:48 PM

An energy solution by the youngins... - Jody - 9/2/2013 1:21:07 PM

It looks like Barry took my advice. - ER - 8/31/2013 7:03:29 PM
- Whenever he calls me he always asks what ER thinks. - bowser - 9/1/2013 3:36:57 AM
- Well, compromise is the essence of good government. - FrankC - 8/31/2013 11:02:05 PM
- "Taking responsibility" that's rich. - RobVG - 8/31/2013 8:03:54 PM
  - If you guys could actually make up your mind... - ER - 8/31/2013 8:34:44 PM
- McCain's already bitching. - bowser - 8/31/2013 7:48:27 PM
  - So what else is new? - ER - 8/31/2013 9:09:50 PM
- I hope it turns out good - SteveS - 8/31/2013 7:47:06 PM
  - Well, at least you're not HOPING he fails. - ER - 8/31/2013 9:06:22 PM
    - The Congress thing may be to get the Swedish and Putin meetings behind him... - FrankC - 8/31/2013 10:51:41 PM
      - Not a bad analysis - ER - 8/31/2013 11:31:54 PM

We've been so busy solving the world's problems here on the Zone... - ER - 8/26/2013 8:30:21 PM
- What do you think Bowser. Do we really need to go on another killing spree. - RobVG - 8/27/2013 2:10:09 PM
  - Why US? - bowser - 8/27/2013 2:49:59 PM
    - You make a decent case for isolationism... - FrankC - 8/27/2013 4:28:14 PM
      - Another thought. If we go into Syria piecemeal, the conservatives will chew him up. - bowser - 8/28/2013 2:22:53 AM
        
        I recall, during the Kosovo bombing, - podrock - 8/28/2013 3:12:08 AM
        
        The cons will "chew him up" no matter what he does. - ER - 8/28/2013 2:30:54 AM
        
        Surely you jest, Mr. Recluse. - bowser - 8/28/2013 2:39:53 AM
        
        you can't make this stuff up, Bowz - ER - 8/28/2013 3:25:16 AM
      - Isolationism, like pacifism, has its moral and practical justifications. - ER - 8/27/2013 7:47:29 PM
        
        Why us... - FrankC - 8/27/2013 9:58:30 PM
        
        Funny, I actually bought into the WMD thing. - ER - 8/27/2013 10:20:51 PM
        
        Of course France wants us to pay the freight... - FrankC - 8/28/2013 1:22:28 AM
        
        "JHC, remove Israel from the equation..." - ER - 8/29/2013 12:52:10 PM
        
        That's why Syria is called "a front line state". - ER - 8/28/2013 1:51:28 AM
      - "we should at least wait until most of the world begs us to act." Wow! Just, wow! - alcaray - 8/27/2013 7:17:48 PM
        
        I wish we could pull up the posts from that time. What a whirlwind.... n/t - RobVG - 8/28/2013 1:40:04 AM
        
        I am still angry for being accused of aiding and abetting the enemy for saying something like what you and Frank just said. - alcaray - 8/28/2013 6:12:58 PM
- Syria is a nightmare. - BuckGalaxy - 8/27/2013 1:55:03 AM
  - Realpolitik - ER - 8/27/2013 3:06:26 AM
- ...and it keeps providing us with new ones... - podrock - 8/27/2013 12:18:20 AM

Politicians scheduled to speak at the MLK 50th anniversary celebration. - ER - 8/28/2013 6:25:44 PM
- I'm sure if LBJ were still around he'd be invited and deliver a stirring speech. - bowser - 8/28/2013 10:29:27 PM
  - LBJ and JFK couldn't make it. - ER - 8/29/2013 3:07:56 AM
  - Nothing good ever came out of Texas. - Jody - 8/29/2013 12:53:03 AM
    - You learn quickly, grasshopper. - ER - 8/29/2013 3:18:39 AM
      - ;) - Jody - 8/29/2013 4:03:35 AM
- I'm sure somebody would be willing to go and make the case that voter purges are good for us. - alcaray - 8/28/2013 8:02:02 PM

Second thoughts about the rodeo - ER - 8/21/2013 11:52:53 AM
- Follow the money. - bowser - 8/22/2013 1:27:14 AM
  - Was that tongue in cheek? n/t - RobVG - 8/23/2013 2:31:02 AM
    - It's intended to parody the oil company arguments against anthropormorphic global warming. - bowser - 8/23/2013 5:16:37 AM
  - First they came for the rodeos... - ER - 8/22/2013 1:34:12 AM
    - You can bet they will not be coming for him. He's on his own. - bowser - 8/22/2013 4:44:16 AM
- ...and that ER - Jody - 8/21/2013 5:27:49 PM
  - Ain't it funny how the best C&W is starting to sound like - ER - 8/21/2013 7:41:02 PM
  - P.S. - Jody - 8/21/2013 7:32:59 PM
    - There are activist groups and they have websites on the internet. Check 'em out. - ER - 8/21/2013 7:50:24 PM
      - PETA - FrankC - 8/22/2013 7:22:26 AM

James Carville... - Jody - 8/21/2013 12:07:29 AM
- That piece is from last year - alcaray - 8/21/2013 4:01:02 AM
  - It was harsh - Jody - 8/21/2013 5:36:56 PM
    - It was harsh and untrue almost a year ago, is my point. - alcaray - 8/21/2013 10:27:39 PM
      - Heh...like that would be the first time - Jody - 8/21/2013 11:24:00 PM
- I'm calling bullshit on that one. - TB - 8/21/2013 12:27:29 AM
  - Ya know...I was wondering that...thank you so much - Jody - 8/21/2013 12:34:41 AM
    - Snopes.com - RobVG - 8/21/2013 2:10:55 AM
      - Thanks Rob!!!!!!! - Jody - 8/21/2013 2:12:44 AM

¿Que pasa, Garth? - ER - 8/21/2013 8:08:52 PM
- coupla possibilities - Robert - 8/21/2013 9:07:06 PM
  - Google, Yahoo, Amazon, etc. are dedicated to mining every last fact they can get on you and keeping it indefinitely for their use. - alcaray - 8/21/2013 10:36:35 PM

In defense of the rodeo - ER - 8/17/2013 5:16:35 PM
- An article on rodeo bulls - TB - 8/17/2013 10:42:56 PM
  - Watch these 10 rodeo bronc riders in 2010. Notice the strap around the testicles. - bowser - 8/18/2013 10:25:30 PM
    - Now bull riding. Watch the fellow pull up the strap around the testicles as the gate opens. - bowser - 8/18/2013 10:27:26 PM
      - Those are flank straps. - TB - 8/18/2013 11:18:24 PM
        
        See that strap back there? The one over the testes? That they pull at the last moment? - bowser - 8/20/2013 12:37:26 AM
        
        All right. - TB - 8/20/2013 1:07:14 AM
        
        Absolutely the best demonstration of willful ignorance we could have. And it's only one of many. - bowser - 8/21/2013 4:16:44 AM
        
        You aren't that stupid and you aren't blind. So what is it? - bowser - 8/20/2013 9:15:52 PM
        
        Why is that cinch strap around the testes pulled when the gate opens? Why is that strap there? - bowser - 8/20/2013 9:15:03 PM
        
        That strap around the testes, with the quick release feature, that is cinched when the gate opens, is for what? - bowser - 8/20/2013 4:01:42 AM
        
        Well, what do you think that strap around the testicles is for? The one that's tightened as the gate opens? - bowser - 8/19/2013 7:20:56 PM
        
        5 seconds of viewing would show you two straps. One pulled at gate opening. - bowser - 8/19/2013 12:59:09 AM
  - That actually helps me alot TB - Jody - 8/17/2013 11:04:57 PM
- You'd absolutely love bullfighting. - bowser - 8/17/2013 8:53:34 PM
  - Death In The Afternoon - FrankC - 8/18/2013 1:28:45 AM
    - Yep....we will never evolve as a species - Jody - 8/18/2013 1:37:15 AM
  - Well, I've never been into bullfighting. It's not a Cuban thing. - ER - 8/17/2013 9:45:32 PM
  - Heh - Jody - 8/17/2013 9:12:19 PM
    - I've see a bull fight at 17...in Madrid. - Jody - 8/17/2013 9:17:04 PM
- Barrel racing is fun to watch. - Jody - 8/17/2013 5:48:41 PM
- Nice post. Thanks! - TB - 8/17/2013 5:28:09 PM
  - From the Manual Amador, Diccionario Español-Inglés (Barcelona) - ER - 8/17/2013 6:03:06 PM
  - Yes...it is! - Jody - 8/17/2013 5:50:45 PM

Amnesty Bill... - Jody - 8/20/2013 9:19:35 PM

Business groups are horrified by the Tea Party madness they helped create - BuckGalaxy - 8/20/2013 4:53:40 PM
- It appears to me there are only three alternatives. - ER - 8/20/2013 5:34:04 PM

So, what's the deal with the rodeo clown with the Obama mask being banned? - FrankC - 8/15/2013 8:36:44 PM
- Did Obama ban this clown? If not, I don't see the AHA! moment here. - ER - 8/16/2013 2:49:32 AM
  - It's completely disingenuous to claim this would be inoffensive. - bowser - 8/17/2013 3:06:03 AM
    - Completely agree Bowser. - Jody - 8/17/2013 12:20:06 PM
  - Hasn't got a thing to do with Obama or his competency - FrankC - 8/16/2013 5:28:44 AM
    - "Live from New York..." - ER - 8/16/2013 1:20:24 PM
    - I think there's a difference between mocking the president... - alcaray - 8/16/2013 5:37:34 AM
      - Is hanging in effigy joking about killing? - FrankC - 8/16/2013 6:08:38 AM
        
        Well, to the extent that they probably weren't actually plotting murder... - alcaray - 8/16/2013 6:20:53 AM
        
        I think they are equally fine or bad... - FrankC - 8/16/2013 7:34:29 AM
        
        In the history of this country, a lot of people were hanged for being black. - alcaray - 8/16/2013 8:15:05 AM
- The story I heard... - alcaray - 8/15/2013 11:56:44 PM
  - Why is Obama off limits? Reagan was hung in effigy by college students. No fuss over that. n/t - RobVG - 8/16/2013 1:50:37 AM
    - That is in poor taste also... - Jody - 8/16/2013 3:06:15 AM
      - I really don't know much about rodeo... - FrankC - 8/16/2013 6:04:15 AM
        
        Google rodeo abuse - Jody - 8/16/2013 3:58:18 PM
        
        Too much smoke for there not to be fire... - FrankC - 8/16/2013 11:29:57 PM
        
        Oh Frank...you have no idea - Jody - 8/17/2013 12:46:57 AM
      - Just don't tell me you want to outlaw football too.n/t - RobVG - 8/16/2013 4:02:35 AM
        
        LOL! - Jody - 8/16/2013 4:08:13 AM
        
        √ - RobVG - 8/16/2013 4:18:18 AM
  - You would be correct alcaray - Jody - 8/16/2013 12:23:11 AM

Night of the long knives - ER - 8/17/2013 1:32:14 AM
- And yet they claim to promote "democracy". Go figure. - bowser - 8/17/2013 3:07:34 AM

A few more Obamacare bugs - RobVG - 8/14/2013 2:27:13 AM
- Why didn't Conservatives work with people to get a smooth, workable plan? - bowser - 8/14/2013 3:00:26 AM
  - Listen dickhead, I wasn't blaming Obama. - RobVG - 8/14/2013 3:17:28 AM
    - There's kind of a freakout going on about ACA right now. It's mostly coming from political operatives of a certain party. - alcaray - 8/14/2013 6:48:37 PM
    - Call ME a "dickhead", will you!!! - bowser - 8/14/2013 5:07:23 AM
      - Thanks for the book suggestion. - RobVG - 8/14/2013 2:29:00 PM
      - "Dickhead". This IS RobVG, and this ISN'T Flame, so I assume it's not an unflattering term. - bowser - 8/14/2013 5:39:14 AM

One health care solution... - Jody - 8/12/2013 5:12:40 PM
- You will see similar things here if we come under a "Universal Health Care"... - FrankC - 8/12/2013 9:43:40 PM
  - God help the ones who fall off their roof and break their back trying to reshingle - Jody - 8/12/2013 11:23:27 PM
    - And the hell with the ones that just break a leg or hip. - bowser - 8/13/2013 12:30:26 AM
      - As long as they break it according to the rules. - Jody - 8/13/2013 1:28:15 AM
    - Or if you cause a car accident and someone gets hurt.. - Jody - 8/12/2013 11:52:52 PM
      - ...oh!...and Type 2 Diabetes!!!! - Jody - 8/12/2013 11:53:58 PM
        
        I have Type II - ER - 8/13/2013 11:35:44 AM
        
        So am I - FrankC - 8/13/2013 6:42:41 PM
        
        Its been done before, it can be done again. - ER - 8/13/2013 7:52:43 PM
        
        PS. - ER - 8/13/2013 8:19:00 PM
        
        I understand but nevertheless - FrankC - 8/13/2013 9:23:59 PM
        
        The mistake you keep making is thinking this is about providing medical care. - TB - 8/13/2013 10:05:58 PM
        
        There's your answer, Frank. : Statist plots. Time for me go. - ER - 8/13/2013 10:29:17 PM
        
        Look... - TB - 8/13/2013 10:38:55 PM
        
        Sorry, what I meant to say was... - ER - 8/13/2013 10:50:36 PM
        
        I have no problem with Medicare. - ER - 8/13/2013 9:54:00 PM
        
        Medicare is socialized medicine. TB - MEDICARE IS SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!! - bowser - 8/14/2013 1:19:34 AM
- I think that's reasonable. - bowser - 8/12/2013 8:29:07 PM
  - I bet the ones that weigh 280 are getting nervous. - Jody - 8/12/2013 11:18:23 PM

Ya know, the Obama admin inherited a hellacious economy... - RobVG - 8/7/2013 2:55:59 AM
- Four different interpretations. - ER - 8/11/2013 12:11:35 PM
  - The short answers. - bowser - 8/12/2013 6:49:33 AM
- It's in how Obama determines policy and the people he trusts. - bowser - 8/8/2013 7:22:26 AM
- A more cynical view - Robert - 8/7/2013 6:52:29 AM
- We need the banks healthy and lending if the economy is ever to get better. - alcaray - 8/7/2013 6:28:45 AM
- He was afraid to rock the boat. - ER - 8/7/2013 3:46:50 AM

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