We'll do it here cause there is really no more community imo. When a long term member was made to feel unwelcome it was the straw that broke the community's back. Tech 1 is gone, Dan seems to be gone, Marsha is gone, Betsy is gone, Ed is all but gone, Phil is infrequent as is Larry. If Tom ever gets fed up the libs will have it all to themselves and the sloshing with warm wet towels can begin in earnest.

You have to wonder how long Justin will put up with that.

What's up with HZ? It seems to be going to hell in a hand basket. I seriously doubt that it will exist as we know it a year from now. From my perspective the liberals are taking themselves too serious and the rhetoric is far too shrill and political. They think they smell blood but the score is still 0-0 and they are still the underdogs. HZ has become a liberal pep rally.

There are currently 6-7 liberals on this board that are a detriment to civil dialogue. There have been from time to time 2 or 3 conservatives that were more or less the same but never 6-7. Some of that 6-7 have evolved, some have always been that way and some are newbies.

We (all of us) can always put up with 2-3 jerks but 6-7 is too many. Hell, I like Bowser but give me a break, who can stand a chorus of Bowsers. Insults veiled and unveiled, true believers, morons, intolerance of other opinion and inability to accept the possibility of being wrong. That last one is true for both sides and ironically it is what is being said about Bush.

The idiocy of it all is that nothing we are arguing about is going to change much. It would just be a guy the liberals like better doing basically the same thing. Regardless of who is elected we are not going to become Europeans or even like them as a group. Regardless of who is elected, Islamic radicals will continue to hate us and kill us every chance they get.

The longer we keep doing things the same way the longer that will last. I hate to think that we will have to give up another x number of casualties on our ground to learn that there is no peaceful solution for what wrong with the world.

Of course this is just my opinion. I only stand and watch and I could be wrong.