re: Ok, Doug, and andrew... lets play games

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re: Ok, Doug, and andrew... lets play games

Doug Ellison — 7/5/2004 7:44:18 PM (archived)

We can play games all day - sure - but I sitll think the claims you made, and continue to make are totally fictional.

You changed your tune from quality of life improvements ( most of which are British, French, Italian and German discoveries ), and democracy ( a Roman invention, and practiced by the british for centuries before the USA even existed) to volume of scientific output ( in which the USA lags behind about half a dozen european and australasian countries per captia)

The only real fact here is that USA has over the rest of the world is that it has more money. With all this chest thumping americans insist on doing, it's quite clear that money cant buy you happiness.

Say what you want, rant all you like, claim what you want, but I dont think anyone here is narrow-minded enough to actually believe the claims you made. My argument has been based on FACTS. The only opinion I will share is this one - I believe that the world would be just as good a place, if not a better one, were the USA never to have existed.

Doug

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Lets take a moment to reflect on the mars rovers, and the 4th of July - R.L. - 7/3/2004 7:33:46 PM
- My observations about the world - John - 7/6/2004 7:21:58 AM
  - One correction - Japan - John - 7/6/2004 7:37:16 AM
- re: Let's try this: Western-style capitalist nations have done more for humanity than the rest of the world put together. - Tom Brosz - 7/6/2004 1:25:53 AM
  - re: Let's try this: Western-style capitalist nations have done more for humanity than the rest of the world put together. - John - 7/6/2004 7:54:24 AM
    - Capitalism and democracy - Tom Brosz - 7/7/2004 11:58:58 PM
- re: Lets take a moment to reflect on the mars rovers, and the 4th of July - Andrew - 7/5/2004 4:38:19 PM
  - Ok, Doug, and andrew... lets play games - R.L. - 7/5/2004 6:46:21 PM
    - R.L., take it from the voice of experience: you're whizzing into the wind here. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/6/2004 12:36:10 AM
    - re: Ok, Doug, and andrew... lets play games - andrew - 7/5/2004 8:53:57 PM
    - re: Ok, Doug, and andrew... lets play games - Doug Ellison - 7/5/2004 7:44:18 PM
- Dr. Robert Zubrin: "In certain ways, Titan is the most hospitable extraterrestrial world within our solar system for human colonization." - ~tax leech - 7/4/2004 6:35:31 PM
  - SHUT UP, YOU BRAINLESS TWIT - R.L. - 7/4/2004 7:46:00 PM
    - Take it easy... - Tom Brosz - 7/4/2004 8:29:54 PM
      - Could be , tom - R.L. - 7/5/2004 7:03:44 AM
        
        R.L., you abusive TAX LEECH, why don't you accept my invitation to fly out here at my expense? COWARD. - ~tax leech - 7/7/2004 1:14:16 AM
        
        You really dont have a clue, do you? - R.L. - 7/7/2004 11:36:09 AM
        
        Are you THAT ashamed that you can't earn a living without us taxpayers? - ~tax leech - 7/7/2004 3:10:03 PM
        
        R.L. if you have a long fuse...it's probably Det Cord. (n/t) - RobVG - 7/5/2004 6:45:28 PM
        
        Rob, that was a top notch zinger - R.L. - 7/5/2004 7:00:44 PM
        
        Awww you all hate me!!!! - R.L. - 7/5/2004 6:52:29 PM
        
        Can we still be friends or are you in jail? (n/t) - RobVG - 7/6/2004 8:26:16 PM
        
        I am ok with the law now - R.L. - 7/7/2004 11:29:29 AM
        
        I apologize. - RobVG - 7/5/2004 7:09:23 PM
        
        Did he need a lawyer's help even as he says lawyers are somhow inferior to his tax-leeching self? - ~tax leech - 7/7/2004 6:17:47 PM
        
        Point that thing somewhere else. - RobVG - 7/7/2004 7:15:41 PM
        
        YES. - Daniel - 7/7/2004 8:22:45 PM
        
        Why can't stargazers / astronomers compete for achievement-oriented PRIZES instead of contracts? - ~tax leech - 7/8/2004 3:38:55 AM
        
        some quick points - - Daniel - 7/8/2004 5:38:27 AM
        
        Academic tenure's thinly veiled PROTECTIONISM. And while inflation's been 35% since 1985, tuition's jumped 300%. - ~tax leech - 7/8/2004 3:27:53 PM
        
        I don't know enough about US universities - Daniel - 7/8/2004 8:48:34 PM
        
        Ya know, that's actually a pretty good post. - RobVG - 7/8/2004 4:31:49 AM
        
        Thanks. BTW, prizes leverage up to 50 times their amount in investment pursuing them. - ~tax leech - 7/8/2004 5:07:31 AM
- re: Science - Raoul - 7/4/2004 2:26:05 PM
  - America's brain transplant from Europe - Gary - 7/4/2004 5:18:28 PM
- re: Lets take a moment to reflect on the mars rovers, and the 4th of July - Doug Ellison - 7/4/2004 11:16:54 AM
  - re: Lets take a moment to reflect on the mars rovers, and the 4th of July - Doug Ellison - 7/4/2004 12:40:21 PM
    - "the rest of the world has done a lot more than you to advance humanity."7 - Buck Galaxy - 7/4/2004 8:57:01 PM
      - re: "the rest of the world has done a lot more than you to advance humanity."7 - Doug Ellison - 7/5/2004 8:37:59 AM
        
        re: "the rest of the world has done a lot more than you to advance humanity."7 - Buck Galaxy - 7/5/2004 6:14:26 PM
        
        Every one is an idiot - r.l. - 7/6/2004 9:07:51 AM
        
        Gee, so many here have accused me of being a right wing hack - R.L. - 7/5/2004 9:21:39 AM
        
        Ok we are gettin silly - R.L. - 7/5/2004 9:12:12 AM
        
        re: Ok we are gettin silly - Doug Ellison - 7/5/2004 9:36:02 AM
        
        Doug, you must be new here - R.L. - 7/5/2004 1:48:07 PM
        
        re: Doug, you must be new here - Doug Ellison - 7/5/2004 4:24:28 PM
        
        Which Brit invented the light bulb? - Robert Clark - 7/5/2004 9:34:19 PM
        
        re: Which Brit invented the light bulb? - Doug Ellison - 7/5/2004 10:55:19 PM
        
        re: Which Brit invented the light bulb? - Nick Hoffman - 7/7/2004 3:57:37 AM
        
        OK, R.L. is a euro hating elitist (n/t) - phil - 7/5/2004 2:36:19 PM
        
        LOL - R.L. - 7/5/2004 2:51:24 PM
- It is remarkable - Donald - 7/3/2004 9:01:16 PM
  - Barry was a pitiful hack... - R.L. - 7/4/2004 2:19:33 AM
    - Barry is a hustler and a liar but he's not nuts - Gary - 7/4/2004 5:56:48 AM
      - The general public has absolutely zero interest in funding manned Mars flight - E.P. Grondine - 7/8/2004 12:08:18 AM
      - The final conclusion to the Levin story has not been written. - Robert Clark - 7/4/2004 12:44:29 PM
        
        Hogwash - Donald - 7/4/2004 5:30:35 PM
        
        What happened to the "inconclusive" view of the Viking life experiments? (n/t) - Robert Clark - 7/5/2004 3:13:30 AM
        
        "Inconclusive?!?" - Donald - 7/5/2004 6:55:40 PM
        
        Inconclusive. - Robert Clark - 7/5/2004 9:16:07 PM
        
        re: And never forget - BRFelix - 7/6/2004 4:00:50 AM
        
        Wishful thinking - Donald - 7/6/2004 4:32:36 AM
        
        re: Closed minds - BRFelix - 7/6/2004 4:53:16 AM

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