re: ADM

alcaray — 2/15/2005 7:30:11 PM (archived)

Well I can't imagine why you would be ignorant of this major story.

While at the same time being certain that ADM "use our own government to gain unfair advantage and throw a monkey wrench into free markets and free trade."

Not exactly sure how to form a proper search argument out of that. Tried: ADM government "unfair advantage" "free market" "free trade". but failed to connect with anything helpful. Really, I'm not sure what I'm looking for. If you can give me a clue what you want me to find...

As for: And I in no way said that the existence of government control of economic activity morally excuses unscrupulous businessmen who use the mixed economy to their advantage. Holy smoke! just look at your last post where you admitted ADM's wrong-doing but went on to say: they use our own government to gain unfair advantage...

Right there you imply that if it were not for some general wrongness of our government or of "the establishment", then ADM would not perform this wrongdoing.

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U.S. Scientists Say They Are Told to Alter Findings - Eric - 2/12/2005 2:21:49 PM
- An interesting contrast... - Tom Brosz - 2/13/2005 9:07:00 PM
- My wife was a federal grain inspector. - David F Mayer - 2/13/2005 1:48:22 AM
  - But did the explosion kill the person who orderred her to lie? - E.P. Grondine - 2/15/2005 4:04:46 PM
    - re: explosion - Tom Brosz - 2/15/2005 4:52:38 PM
  - Federal inspectors - Tom Brosz - 2/13/2005 2:03:04 AM
    - "Trust me, I'm a doctor." (n/t) - alcaray - 2/14/2005 6:18:02 PM
      - re: "Trust me, I'm a federal grain inspector" - Tom Brosz - 2/14/2005 6:58:38 PM
        
        I think the logical outcome of your argument - alcaray - 2/14/2005 10:13:21 PM
        
        Interesting... - Tom Brosz - 2/14/2005 11:02:50 PM
        
        if you stop thinking in absolutes, you may come to understand (n/t) - tony - 2/15/2005 1:57:44 AM
        
        Wild mischaracterization! - alcaray - 2/14/2005 11:45:27 PM
        
        Go back and read your quote again. - Tom Brosz - 2/15/2005 12:08:46 AM
        
        You read it right: now how does that imply criminality? (n/t) - alcaray - 2/15/2005 4:30:15 PM
        
        re: Go back and read your quote again. - gbaikie - 2/15/2005 2:35:50 AM
        
        Or (trying vainly to snap you back to the discussion the rest of us are having)... - alcaray - 2/15/2005 4:40:00 PM
        
        Take a look at your examples... - Tom Brosz - 2/15/2005 4:50:57 PM
        
        re "How many of them are taking advantage of the government's power to interfere in economic activity to maintain their positions? " - alcaray - 2/15/2005 5:51:10 PM
        
        ADM - Tom Brosz - 2/15/2005 6:59:00 PM
        
        re: ADM - alcaray - 2/15/2005 7:30:11 PM
        
        re: ADM - Tom Brosz - 2/15/2005 9:59:51 PM
        
        More reading on ethanol in there than I want to do - alcaray - 2/15/2005 10:27:38 PM
        
        I showed you just one example of the consequences of a mixed economy - Tom Brosz - 2/16/2005 1:37:33 AM
        
        Yes, that is what you wanted to talk about. (n/t) - alcaray - 2/16/2005 7:46:45 PM
    - Please explain. Your comment went right by me. (n/t) - DFM - 2/13/2005 3:06:09 AM
      - Leave It To The Private Sector Is Tom's Mantra - Mark Eby - 2/13/2005 5:04:50 AM
        
        re: Leave it to the private sector whenever possible is Tom's mantra - Tom Brosz - 2/13/2005 7:13:35 AM
        
        Yes, and the private "inspectors" will be greased and nothing will change. - David F Mayer - 2/13/2005 7:34:42 PM
        
        You're not actually listening, are you? - Tom Brosz - 2/13/2005 8:44:49 PM
        
        This is pretty much hogwash - alcaray - 2/15/2005 10:35:43 PM
        
        "competetive businessmen" is to Tom, as UN is to a liberal. :-D (n/t) - tony - 2/14/2005 4:41:36 AM
        
        I've got a hell of a lot more evidence backing my position than the liberal has backing his. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 2/14/2005 5:45:40 AM
        
        and both sides need to ignore a mountain-load of evidence to the contrary (n/t) - Tony - 2/14/2005 4:40:40 PM
        
        After 25 years in private enterprise, - David F Mayer - 2/13/2005 9:36:12 PM
        
        Very naive - Donald - 2/13/2005 3:44:54 PM
        
        The operation of the free market IS public policy. - Tom Brosz - 2/13/2005 4:42:19 PM
        
        Indeed it is... - Donald - 2/13/2005 5:13:28 PM
        
        Corruption - Tom Brosz - 2/13/2005 8:52:49 PM
        
        Its not hard to grasp - Donald - 2/13/2005 10:05:14 PM
        
        P.S. - Tom Brosz - 2/14/2005 4:15:15 AM
        
        re: Its not hard to grasp - Tom Brosz - 2/14/2005 2:54:38 AM
        
        Apply The Power Corrupts Reasoning All The Way Through The System (n/t) - Mark Eby - 2/13/2005 3:29:16 PM
        
        The key is decentralization - Tom Brosz - 2/13/2005 4:43:54 PM
        
        Apply That Too - Mark Eby - 2/13/2005 6:05:20 PM
        
        Monopolies - Tom Brosz - 2/13/2005 9:02:20 PM
        
        When I can get cable service from another company than Charter... - alcaray - 2/14/2005 6:20:26 PM
        
        Geez, where are you located? - Tom Brosz - 2/14/2005 7:06:49 PM
        
        I don't really want dish service. - alcaray - 2/14/2005 10:24:47 PM
        
        re: I don't really want dish service. - Tom Brosz - 2/14/2005 11:15:38 PM
        
        I see how you have divined my evil plan! - alcaray - 2/14/2005 11:59:02 PM
        
        Guess Youy've Missed All The Recent Merger News (n/t) - Mark Eby - 2/13/2005 9:16:01 PM
- The actual survey documents... - Tom Brosz - 2/12/2005 8:43:01 PM
- Not surprising - Donald - 2/12/2005 3:27:14 PM
  - Try To Regain Your Credibility - Mark Eby - 2/12/2005 8:10:53 PM
    - Credibility - Donald - 2/12/2005 10:02:07 PM
      - I Agree, But You Didn't Address My Counter Points - Mark Eby - 2/13/2005 12:41:28 AM
        
        That's because... - Donald - 2/13/2005 4:12:50 PM
        
        A Repitition Of The Same Errors - Mark Eby - 2/13/2005 6:15:23 PM
        
        re:Contradictions - Raoul - 2/13/2005 7:22:29 PM
        
        Stated bipartisan US policy towards Iraq since 1998 was regime change. - ebnelson - 2/14/2005 3:47:28 AM
        
        More European Selective Memory Syndrome I See - Mark Eby - 2/13/2005 9:14:59 PM
        
        re: Believing and acting are two totally different things - Raoul - 2/14/2005 6:42:02 AM
        
        re: Believing and acting are two totally different things - gbaikie - 2/15/2005 1:52:45 AM
        
        re: A Repitition Of The Same Errors - Donald - 2/13/2005 7:22:20 PM
        
        You Made Numerous False Statements Don - Mark Eby - 2/13/2005 9:24:44 PM

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