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There are only 2 undisputed details as yet

Tony — 3/7/2005 3:55:55 PM (archived)

The car was fired on. One guy was killed.

All else so far is hearsay and speculation.

Raoul has been jumped on enough for jumping to conclusions, doesn't need me there also.
You're also coming to conclusions.

I haven't said one word on whether her story is legit or BS - you're reading too much into this.

It's not me who has the problem......

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Disgusting - Raoul - 3/4/2005 10:28:30 PM
- "why are they so trigger happy?" - David F Mayer - 3/7/2005 3:29:16 PM
  - re: "why are they so trigger happy?" - Raoul - 3/7/2005 7:57:42 PM
- This might have been a factor in this tragedy - Tom Brosz - 3/7/2005 5:42:20 AM
  - Aw, shucks. You quote the Moonie rag again. - David F Mayer - 3/7/2005 5:25:55 PM
    - OK, fine. - peter - 3/7/2005 8:34:33 PM
      - link - peter - 3/7/2005 8:36:40 PM
        
        Thanks (n/t) - DFM - 3/8/2005 10:44:18 PM
- "U.S. targeting journalists!" Part Two. - Tom Brosz - 3/6/2005 5:37:41 PM
  - Funny Thing CNN Failed To Mention - Mark Eby - 3/6/2005 9:13:39 PM
    - re: Funny Thing CNN Failed To Mention - Tom Brosz - 3/6/2005 9:28:04 PM
      - Next thing I'll hear is that the wound was self-inflicted. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 3/7/2005 1:17:36 AM
        
        Probably hear that the 'war mongrel' or 'rummy' ordered her assassination (n/t) - SteveS - 3/7/2005 6:58:30 AM
      - New twist on Kill the Messenger huh? - tony - 3/7/2005 1:17:08 AM
        
        Read some of her articles. - Tom Brosz - 3/7/2005 4:08:01 AM
        
        I Guess The Phrase "An Axe To Grind" Is Foreign To You - Mark Eby - 3/7/2005 4:05:12 AM
        
        You dont have any facts to fit yet - tony - 3/7/2005 4:54:48 AM
        
        Your Problem Is Obvious - Mark Eby - 3/7/2005 5:02:46 AM
        
        There are only 2 undisputed details as yet - Tony - 3/7/2005 3:55:55 PM
        
        Big Fat Blinders - Mark Eby - 3/8/2005 3:42:46 AM
        
        stop reading between my lines - Tony - 3/8/2005 12:45:09 PM
        
        Please give us a good reason why we should take anything a communist says or writes seriously. - Scott Evil - 3/9/2005 6:54:26 PM
        
        She was an eye-witness. (n/t) - alcaray - 3/9/2005 7:12:55 PM
        
        If an eye-witness is blind to reality then you are a fool if you invest in her testimony (n/t) - Scott Evil - 3/9/2005 7:25:19 PM
        
        Stay off of juries, please. (n/t) - alcaray - 3/9/2005 7:35:09 PM
        
        Gladly...Forced labor for a tiny stipend is usually defined as slavery. (n/t) - Scott Evil - 3/9/2005 9:33:49 PM
        
        Besides, if the cops want to press charges, they defendant must be guilty. (n/t) - Scott Evil - 3/9/2005 9:35:19 PM
        
        You are just doing that to upset me! (n/t) - alcaray - 3/10/2005 8:45:59 PM
        
        You stated "no facts" - ID - 3/9/2005 12:40:45 AM
        
        Neither do the rest of you. - Tom Brosz - 3/7/2005 5:02:07 AM
        
        The Picture Is Clearer Than Reading The Tea Leaves Of Past Writings - Mark Eby - 3/7/2005 5:07:59 AM
  - re: "U.S. targeting journalists!" Part Two. - SteveS - 3/6/2005 6:37:26 PM
- I'm waiting to see what the details actually are... - Tom Brosz - 3/5/2005 7:21:50 PM
  - Don't let Steve hear you say that (n/t) - alcaray - 3/5/2005 7:40:42 PM
- Maybe Because High Speed Refusal To Stop Is A Terrorist Tactic - Mark Eby - 3/5/2005 4:24:21 AM
  - I agree - Buck Galaxy - 3/5/2005 6:41:29 AM
    - Sorry Raoul - Buck Galaxy - 3/6/2005 3:37:56 AM
- Shouldn't we wait for all the details? - SteveS - 3/4/2005 11:48:07 PM
  - re: What I feared - Raoul - 3/5/2005 9:11:59 AM
    - Your original post was not exactly balanced either. - Tom Brosz - 3/5/2005 7:25:18 PM
      - re: Yes, I'm indeed furious at this situation - Raoul - 3/6/2005 12:08:46 AM
        
        Another Obvious Answer - Mark Eby - 3/6/2005 5:27:29 PM
    - re: What I feared - SteveS - 3/5/2005 3:42:59 PM
    - Disgusting - gbaikie - 3/5/2005 11:14:21 AM
      - Would it really kill anyone to apologize? - Mary Anne - 3/5/2005 12:36:44 PM
        
        Going to be a tough sell - alcaray - 3/5/2005 7:38:26 PM
        
        re: Going to be a tough sell - gbaikie - 3/5/2005 10:05:42 PM
        
        In case you really did not know: I was talking about apologies. (n/t) - alcaray - 3/5/2005 11:26:19 PM
        
        Yeah I know. Thank you. (n/t) - gbaikie - 3/6/2005 12:58:37 AM
        
        re: Would it really kill anyone to apologize? - gbaikie - 3/5/2005 3:31:23 PM
        
        No, not sympathy or empathy: it's apology. - Mary Anne - 3/6/2005 5:27:13 PM
        
        re: No, not sympathy or empathy: it's apology. - gbaikie - 3/6/2005 7:53:49 PM
        
        I see. We don't know how, so we shouldn't try. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 3/6/2005 9:36:20 PM
  - Same admonition: Shouldn't we wait for all the details? (n/t) - alcaray - 3/5/2005 12:02:30 AM
    - I was pointing out details from the article - SteveS - 3/5/2005 12:06:56 AM
      - Raoul was also going from facts in the piece - alcaray - 3/5/2005 12:52:19 AM
        
        Really? - SteveS - 3/5/2005 1:06:00 AM
        
        I admit that I could not understand the French part,,, - alcaray - 3/5/2005 1:19:30 AM
        
        Translation: 'And they say that they claim themselves liberating. ...Eh well, my eye'. - SteveS - 3/5/2005 1:47:28 AM
        
        I pointed out before, and you promptly ignored... - alcaray - 3/5/2005 7:26:49 PM
        
        I did not ingore, your post was vague - SteveS - 3/6/2005 7:14:54 PM
        
        A few links - alcaray - 3/7/2005 7:06:02 PM
        
        Thanks, I read them before, nothing new (n/t) - SteveS - 3/7/2005 8:33:42 PM
        
        If you knew my claim was true, why did you make me search & link? Jerk! (n/t) - alcaray - 3/7/2005 9:14:30 PM
        
        I spent a lot of time searching for your recollection for which neither one of us could trace - SteveS - 3/7/2005 10:12:31 PM
        
        I provided ... - alcaray - 3/7/2005 10:36:41 PM
        
        I see no truth and I don't think your claim is true (n/t) - SteveS - 3/7/2005 10:02:53 PM
        
        What is it that you think I claimed? (n/t) - alcaray - 3/7/2005 10:13:43 PM
        
        That the British would not shoot at a car or persons who would not stop prior to a checkpoint when warned (n/t) - SteveS - 3/7/2005 10:28:53 PM
        
        Show me where I claimed any such thing. - alcaray - 3/7/2005 10:39:05 PM
        
        re: Show me where I claimed any such thing. - SteveS - 3/7/2005 10:56:32 PM
        
        You honestly don't see a difference between my claim that "lots of folks think"... - alcaray - 3/7/2005 11:14:43 PM
        
        Oh I understand, but I don't think it has merit - SteveS - 3/8/2005 12:23:58 AM
        
        re: "Lots of people think Communism is the way to go." - alcaray - 3/8/2005 5:01:44 PM
        
        Well, at least you didn't call me names... - SteveS - 3/8/2005 6:16:14 PM
        
        Be well, buddy (n/t) - alcaray - 3/8/2005 7:22:17 PM
        
        Thanks, same to you (n/t) - SteveS - 3/8/2005 8:33:59 PM
        
        Oops, I forgot "trigger-happy" - alcaray - 3/5/2005 1:22:55 AM
        
        "trigger-happy" - SteveS - 3/5/2005 1:56:10 AM
        
        warning shots - Mary Anne - 3/5/2005 1:43:22 PM
        
        Red tracer bullets are used to warn people at checpoints (n/t) - SteveS - 3/7/2005 11:31:14 PM
        
        Well she is a communist. - Lee - 3/8/2005 8:39:42 AM
        
        Yeah, it would've been far better had a dozen or so American troops been blown up. - Lee - 3/6/2005 5:19:48 AM
        
        But they weren't, were they? Nor would they have been. - Mary Anne - 3/6/2005 3:19:28 PM
        
        I'm glad you knew that ahead of time. - Tom Brosz - 3/6/2005 5:43:05 PM
        
        Repeat: you don't shoot at people to encourage them them to slow down. - Mary Anne - 3/6/2005 6:19:11 PM
        
        re: Repeat: cars filled with explosives have killed our soldiers doing exactly this. - Tom Brosz - 3/6/2005 9:25:12 PM
        
        What I comprehend: - Mary Anne - 3/6/2005 9:40:59 PM
        
        re: What I comprehend: - Tom Brosz - 3/6/2005 9:52:51 PM
        
        Throwing crap - Mary Anne - 3/7/2005 1:15:05 AM
        
        You've got nothing, right? - Tom Brosz - 3/7/2005 4:06:51 AM
        
        Plus check out where it happened. - Lee - 3/8/2005 8:44:03 AM
        
        What I'd do - SDG - 3/7/2005 9:37:11 PM
        
        re: What I'd do - SteveS - 3/8/2005 12:42:42 AM
        
        Not bad. - Tom Brosz - 3/7/2005 11:24:02 PM
        
        A two-ton block of concrete suspended over the road, and a panic button. (n/t) - alcaray - 3/7/2005 10:15:16 PM
        
        This is an ongoing problem that has remained untreated by our glorious leaders. - Mary Anne - 3/7/2005 2:03:21 PM
        
        WOW... Ummm I hope I am not on your bad side... - R.L. - 3/7/2005 3:21:26 AM
        
        It would take quite a bit more than that, I think, to spatter me across a wall. - Tom Brosz - 3/7/2005 4:20:51 AM
        
        re:The root of the problem is that - Raoul - 3/7/2005 9:40:01 PM
        
        re: re:The root of the problem - Tom Brosz - 3/8/2005 1:26:33 AM
        
        re: re:The root of the problem - Raoul - 3/9/2005 7:20:56 PM
        
        re: warning shots - SteveS - 3/5/2005 4:21:45 PM
        
        re: re:Several months ago - Raoul - 3/5/2005 11:59:58 PM

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