I was going from memory of newspaper pieces I've read from the last few years. And I'm disappointed that in the time I gave myself to do this search, I didn't find any links to match what I recall reading.
Anyway, I should remind you that I provide these links not to prove that American forces are bad, or that they were at fault in the recent episode with the Italians, but instead (as was always my point in this thread) that Roaul's point of view is a rational one.
So the following 3 links:
"The Americans have to look again at the rules of engagement and just see what they're doing at these checkpoints...They are shooting first and asking questions later," Paul Beaver, the former publisher of Jane's Defense Weekly, told BBC television." *** ""The Americans are capable of dealing with the situation," said Israeli strategic analyst Ephraim Inbar. "But what these troops have to do is tread a golden path between being assertive, cautious and humane. Most of the people they will deal with are civilians. They have to do it in such a way as to minimize the hard feelings of the population."
And you could understand why the British down in Basra - the incident occurred in their area of operations - want to put a large piece of desert between themselves and the Americans. but in Basra they simply don't adopt the aggressive posture and sometimes brutal behaviour of the US occupiers.
Some observers say morale - and the security situation in general - would vastly improve if the Americans simply "lightened up". Since the occupation began, critics have drawn unfavourable parallels between the US style of military policing and the more relaxed "helmets-off" approach in the British-controlled southern Iraq. The difference now is that with travel in the country finally opening up once again, Iraqis are able to make such comparisons for themselves. Traders from Basra who visit Baghdad on business trips, for example, frequently claim they are treated far more gently at British checkpoints than at American ones. Stray too near a British checkpoint without permission and you are likely to get a verbal warning. Stray too near an American one and it may well be accompanied by a bullet fired overhead.
Current Events » in reply to I did not ingore, your post was vague
A few links
The whole thread (104 posts)
- Disgusting
- "why are they so trigger happy?"
- This might have been a factor in this tragedy
- "U.S. targeting journalists!" Part Two.
- Funny Thing CNN Failed To Mention
- re: Funny Thing CNN Failed To Mention
- Next thing I'll hear is that the wound was self-inflicted. (n/t)
- New twist on Kill the Messenger huh?
- Read some of her articles.
- I Guess The Phrase "An Axe To Grind" Is Foreign To You
- You dont have any facts to fit yet
- Your Problem Is Obvious
- There are only 2 undisputed details as yet
- Neither do the rest of you.
- Your Problem Is Obvious
- You dont have any facts to fit yet
- re: Funny Thing CNN Failed To Mention
- re: "U.S. targeting journalists!" Part Two.
- Funny Thing CNN Failed To Mention
- I'm waiting to see what the details actually are...
- Maybe Because High Speed Refusal To Stop Is A Terrorist Tactic
- Shouldn't we wait for all the details?
- re: What I feared
- Same admonition: Shouldn't we wait for all the details? (n/t)
- I was pointing out details from the article
- Raoul was also going from facts in the piece
- Really?
- I admit that I could not understand the French part,,,
- Translation: 'And they say that they claim themselves liberating. ...Eh well, my eye'.
- I pointed out before, and you promptly ignored...
- I did not ingore, your post was vague
- A few links
- Thanks, I read them before, nothing new (n/t)
- If you knew my claim was true, why did you make me search & link? Jerk! (n/t)
- I spent a lot of time searching for your recollection for which neither one of us could trace
- I see no truth and I don't think your claim is true (n/t)
- If you knew my claim was true, why did you make me search & link? Jerk! (n/t)
- Thanks, I read them before, nothing new (n/t)
- A few links
- I did not ingore, your post was vague
- I pointed out before, and you promptly ignored...
- Oops, I forgot "trigger-happy"
- "trigger-happy"
- warning shots
- Red tracer bullets are used to warn people at checpoints (n/t)
- Yeah, it would've been far better had a dozen or so American troops been blown up.
- But they weren't, were they? Nor would they have been.
- I'm glad you knew that ahead of time.
- But they weren't, were they? Nor would they have been.
- re: warning shots
- warning shots
- "trigger-happy"
- Translation: 'And they say that they claim themselves liberating. ...Eh well, my eye'.
- I admit that I could not understand the French part,,,
- Really?
- Raoul was also going from facts in the piece
- I was pointing out details from the article
