If someone were shooting at you, would it cause you to slow down? Would you necessarily know that it was "friendly fire"? Do the bullets have little contrails that say "USA" or "WARNING"?
I would not have been speeding towards the check point and they were shooting in front of the car. I can imagine a lot of split second confusion, especially at night.
This hasn't been the first incident in which people have been killed near checkpoints for not slowing down after having been shot at as a "warning". Somebody needs to put psychology and procedure together to observe where they conflict.
Apparently the Italians didn't realize this.
I agree, but think it was a communication conflict. Check point policy has been established for sometime.
Can we not "warn" people without using the tools with which people are killed to do it? Warning shots work in the movies because everyone has read the script.
I don't think the insurgents understand any other kind of warning and they are for whom the policy was developed.
And another thing: do you know how the Italians drive? For them, that may not have been considered "speeding". That may have been considered a moderate speed of approach, until someone started shooting at them.
Check point news-flash.
For all those who will be performing duty at check points throughout Iraq. Please note that our comrades the Italians are known for speeding when driving automobiles so lets take that into consideration when a vehicle is approaching at higher than normal speed. That just won't work, the Italians need to follow protocol and this goes to a communication problem.
At this point we are debating over the articles Raoul provided and until investagations are completed we are just speculating.
I stand by my original post to Raoul and don't think it was out of line. I am amazed how this thread has developed.
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re: warning shots
The whole thread (104 posts)
- Disgusting
- "why are they so trigger happy?"
- This might have been a factor in this tragedy
- "U.S. targeting journalists!" Part Two.
- Funny Thing CNN Failed To Mention
- re: Funny Thing CNN Failed To Mention
- Next thing I'll hear is that the wound was self-inflicted. (n/t)
- New twist on Kill the Messenger huh?
- Read some of her articles.
- I Guess The Phrase "An Axe To Grind" Is Foreign To You
- You dont have any facts to fit yet
- Your Problem Is Obvious
- There are only 2 undisputed details as yet
- Neither do the rest of you.
- Your Problem Is Obvious
- You dont have any facts to fit yet
- re: Funny Thing CNN Failed To Mention
- re: "U.S. targeting journalists!" Part Two.
- Funny Thing CNN Failed To Mention
- I'm waiting to see what the details actually are...
- Maybe Because High Speed Refusal To Stop Is A Terrorist Tactic
- Shouldn't we wait for all the details?
- re: What I feared
- Same admonition: Shouldn't we wait for all the details? (n/t)
- I was pointing out details from the article
- Raoul was also going from facts in the piece
- Really?
- I admit that I could not understand the French part,,,
- Translation: 'And they say that they claim themselves liberating. ...Eh well, my eye'.
- I pointed out before, and you promptly ignored...
- I did not ingore, your post was vague
- A few links
- Thanks, I read them before, nothing new (n/t)
- If you knew my claim was true, why did you make me search & link? Jerk! (n/t)
- I spent a lot of time searching for your recollection for which neither one of us could trace
- I see no truth and I don't think your claim is true (n/t)
- If you knew my claim was true, why did you make me search & link? Jerk! (n/t)
- Thanks, I read them before, nothing new (n/t)
- A few links
- I did not ingore, your post was vague
- I pointed out before, and you promptly ignored...
- Oops, I forgot "trigger-happy"
- "trigger-happy"
- warning shots
- Red tracer bullets are used to warn people at checpoints (n/t)
- Yeah, it would've been far better had a dozen or so American troops been blown up.
- But they weren't, were they? Nor would they have been.
- I'm glad you knew that ahead of time.
- But they weren't, were they? Nor would they have been.
- re: warning shots
- warning shots
- "trigger-happy"
- Translation: 'And they say that they claim themselves liberating. ...Eh well, my eye'.
- I admit that I could not understand the French part,,,
- Really?
- Raoul was also going from facts in the piece
- I was pointing out details from the article
