Let's see, R.L.
You're implying that you have to be an atheist to be a philosopher?
bull----!

As far as scientists are concerned?... Most registered scientists
"believe" in God, or in a deity of sorts [that must shock you, R.L.].
And if most registered scientists believe in God [in one form or another]
than it stands to reason [A followed by B] that they also believe
that their perceived God had some role [or a major role] in creating things in the universe
...That sounds alot like ID.

Of course you, R.L., will turn your proverbial blind eye to such information
gathered by accredited pollsters on scientist's personal lives and beliefs.

Frankly, R.L., I'm sick and tired of your Judeo-Christian bashing.
I think many Christians, muslims and religious Jews will be greatly offended by you.
I suppose you keep to rather small social circles in Hawaii as a result...

You are rather ignorant of many historical benefits your nation acquired under Judeo-Christian
culture.
And your obtuseness when it comes to debating the possibility that there is the possibility of a latent and even an active supra-intelligence at work in the cosmos is shows how pitiful you
are as both an intellect and a person in general.

(1) FACT NUMBER ONE: Science does not have all the answers, and for those answers it cannot supply, you go outside science [to philosophy or theology, to debate something like ID]

(2) FACT NUMBER TWO: Science is limited in scope...those hitherto hidden or unseen possibilities that science is incapable of analyzing or investigating fall under the realm of philosophy and or theology.
[THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE CANNOT BE A TRANSCENDENT LINK TO SCIENCE
WHEN IT COMES TO DEALING WITH ID]....

(3) FACT NUMBER THREE: The religious fanatics have an agenda? Yes, true!... So do you, R.L.....
So does the entire cadre of science dwelling and professing its creed in the ivory towers
and hallowed halls of science around the world....What scares me about the hidden agenda of scientists is that the intellectual cabal in support of science regularily deny that they have
a "hidden agenda". And that same Cabal resorts to threats, warnings, and even insults
and denerations to back up its 'assertions'.
You want to know someone with an "hidden agenda?"...The evidence for it is that they DENY they have one.
In other words: they LIE....
You ever uttered a lie, R.L.?

Rene Descarte was a scientist, a mathematician. a theologian [who would agree with ID]
and he was also a philosopher.

You're spouting empty rhetoric without backing up your nonsense with any facts.
Should we trust scientists like you to guide the moral, ethical