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alcaray — 5/15/2006 5:29:52 PM (archived)

And I had to dig it up myself: OFAC.

So it is entirely on our side that all checking is done. And we already have the customer's permission to have whatever data they have given us. I feared that we would send the info off to a govt. agency.

It is a lot less insidious than I feared. But it is the company's fault that everything is handled so secretively. Everyone is afraid of getting in trouble, so managers do not pass on critical pieces of info (I had to pry to find the acronym OFAC. Then I had to research it externally.). Secrecy sometimes makes things look worse, not better.

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The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans - Jack Herer - 5/11/2006 12:24:43 PM
- Here is something interesting - good or bad? - alcaray - 5/12/2006 6:58:23 PM
  - Hard to say - Robert - 5/13/2006 3:02:15 AM
    - Much more info now - alcaray - 5/15/2006 5:29:52 PM
  - Data mining for profit - Lindy - 5/12/2006 10:46:48 PM
- re: The New York Times article from last December - Tom Brosz - 5/12/2006 6:45:49 AM
  - Honey pots - Robert - 5/12/2006 5:58:29 PM
    - re: Honey pots, continued... - Tom Brosz - 5/16/2006 10:40:10 PM
      - re: Honey pots, continued... - Robert - 5/17/2006 11:11:00 PM
      - Maybe ChoicePoint bought the list? - Lindy - 5/17/2006 5:25:28 AM
    - Hmmmmm - R.L. - 5/16/2006 5:57:10 AM
    - How a Libertarian can be so blase about this. - Tom Brosz - 5/13/2006 12:04:03 AM
      - TOFU Tony - Lindy - 5/13/2006 4:30:01 AM
      - Surrender isn't an option - Robert - 5/13/2006 12:55:11 AM
        
        P.S. - Tom Brosz - 5/13/2006 1:39:49 AM
        
        re: Surrender - Tom Brosz - 5/13/2006 1:35:26 AM
        
        Surrender - Robert - 5/13/2006 2:32:48 AM
        
        Differences - Tom Brosz - 5/13/2006 3:03:58 AM
        
        re: Differences - Lindy - 5/13/2006 4:51:33 AM
        
        re: Paranoia - Tom Brosz - 5/13/2006 6:29:14 AM
        
        re: Paranoia - Robert - 5/13/2006 4:41:01 PM
        
        Balance - Tom Brosz - 5/13/2006 5:09:52 PM
        
        terrorism: "phony threat", no. "ginned up by the Republicans to keep power" yes. (n/t) - alcaray - 5/16/2006 9:06:03 PM
        
        re: Balance, limits, and opportunity - Robert - 5/13/2006 5:48:06 PM
        
        Good post. - Tom Brosz - 5/13/2006 10:06:18 PM
        
        Thank you - Robert - 5/14/2006 1:33:16 AM
        
        "Out Of Iraq and Into Africa" - Tom Brosz - 5/14/2006 4:00:52 AM
        
        re: Paranoia - Lindy - 5/13/2006 3:37:30 PM
        
        I've been hearing a lot about Jeb Bush lately. - Tom Brosz - 5/13/2006 4:33:59 PM
        
        Don't think he's really in the running? - Lindy - 5/14/2006 4:07:11 AM
        
        No - Robert - 5/13/2006 3:25:25 AM
        
        Okay, let me nail it down a little tighter. - Tom Brosz - 5/13/2006 4:47:45 AM
        
        re: Okay, let me wrap a little tighter. - Robert - 5/13/2006 4:27:57 PM
        
        Loose lips sink ships - Lee - 5/13/2006 2:49:52 AM
        
        Be afraid. Be very afraid. (n/t) - Robert - 5/13/2006 3:31:57 AM
  - Your Qwest info is very wrong - Tony - 5/12/2006 5:07:41 PM
    - I said wireless customers. - Tom Brosz - 5/12/2006 5:38:20 PM
      - Did you even read my post? - Tony - 5/12/2006 6:02:30 PM
- HIgh crimes and misdemeanors - Donald - 5/12/2006 12:28:37 AM
  - re: HIgh crimes and misdemeanors - Lindy - 5/12/2006 1:30:23 AM
    - Break the telcos? - tony - 5/12/2006 3:25:31 AM
      - re: Break the telcos? - Lindy - 5/12/2006 2:39:43 PM
- Brace for spin - Robert - 5/11/2006 3:31:50 PM
  - Why didn't Qwest give in? - FrankC - 5/11/2006 11:49:07 PM
    - Tell me Frank.... - Donald - 5/12/2006 12:36:33 AM
      - certainly they are not fine with it..... - FrankC - 5/12/2006 5:38:44 AM
        
        Words of wisdom from Frank - Lindy - 5/13/2006 3:44:22 PM
        
        re: certainly they are not fine with it..... - Donald - 5/12/2006 12:14:59 PM
    - Dunno, but I'm switching - Robert - 5/12/2006 12:36:08 AM
  - re: Brace for hysteria - Tom Brosz - 5/11/2006 8:37:53 PM
    - Is there a libertarian in the house? - tony - 5/12/2006 2:52:28 AM
      - Only when being one does not endanger tax cuts. (n/t) - alcaray - 5/12/2006 3:11:47 PM
    - Brace for hysteria; manufacture it if it's a no-show - Robert - 5/11/2006 9:26:57 PM
      - How to boil a frog..... - Lindy - 5/12/2006 1:12:10 AM
        
        re: How to boil a lobster..... - Robert - 5/12/2006 3:07:36 AM
        
        " Despite the best efforts of the Republican Party, the people are still in charge" - Lindy - 5/12/2006 3:05:44 PM
  - "We're not mining or trolling" - Robert - 5/11/2006 4:13:38 PM
    - This is just an extension of...... - Lindy - 5/11/2006 4:53:08 PM
- Tens of millions of Americans? - Lindy - 5/11/2006 1:15:34 PM
  - First they came for the pets... - ljk - 5/11/2006 8:10:20 PM
    - How long? It's already here... - Laurie Street - 5/11/2006 11:36:45 PM
      - re: How long? It's already here... - ljk - 5/12/2006 1:34:50 PM
    - re: First they came for the pets... - Lindy - 5/11/2006 9:11:04 PM
      - re: First they came for the pets... - ljk - 5/12/2006 1:39:17 PM
        
        The list - Lindy - 5/12/2006 3:21:02 PM
        
        John Lear - Tom Brosz - 5/13/2006 1:55:14 AM
        
        Maybe he's CIA mind-controlled robot? - Lindy - 5/13/2006 4:23:14 AM
        
        "He's pretty far out there." If you think so, I'd say that nails it. ;) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 5/13/2006 4:49:09 AM
        
        Report - "Government Access to Phone Calling Activity and Related Records: Legal Authorities" - ljk - 5/18/2006 5:03:41 PM

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