A refreshing change.

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A refreshing change.

Mary Anne — 10/29/2008 11:19:41 AM (archived)

Obama has charisma. McCain doesn't. (He used to. No more.)

Obama has never claimed to be leading America to nirvana, Paradise, or back to Eden. He certainly isn't offering the road to Valhalla -- that's more in McCain's line anyway. Obama is offering an invitation to become re-engaged in public life to Americans, after we have slept for a long time.

Sounds to me as if a certain non-charismatic candidate's supporters are trying to make Obama's natural talent into something sinister because they don't have any of it.

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Alright, we're one week away, and let's each post our predictions... (n/t) - z - 10/28/2008 5:36:56 PM
- It's going to be a nail biter - Buck Galaxy - 11/3/2008 3:24:37 AM
  - I'll give you 2:1 odds that McCain will not win Penn. - alcaray - 11/4/2008 3:05:53 AM
- Perspective - TB - 10/31/2008 8:58:12 PM
  - I love watching you slowly come unglued.... - ARRELL - 11/1/2008 7:35:09 PM
    - You know... - TB - 11/1/2008 11:20:51 PM
      - McCain wouldn't be anywhere within 15 points if Obama were white! (n/t) - z - 11/2/2008 5:11:35 PM
        
        The flaw in the "racism" argument - TB - 11/2/2008 10:37:18 PM
        
        An honest question - Laurie Street - 11/3/2008 5:00:55 PM
        
        re: An honest question - TB - 11/3/2008 5:51:29 PM
        
        PA has a category called "No Affiliation". - Mary Anne - 11/3/2008 11:40:15 PM
        
        Thanks, TB - Laurie Street - 11/3/2008 6:13:08 PM
        
        And another - Laurie Street - 11/3/2008 5:08:27 PM
        
        re: And another - gbaikie - 11/3/2008 7:10:02 PM
        
        Primaries - Mary Anne - 11/3/2008 11:49:56 PM
        
        Democrat racists - Buck Galaxy - 11/3/2008 9:47:00 AM
      - re: McCain shouldn't even be close. - Yeti - 11/2/2008 4:20:50 PM
- What can be the mentality of the "undecided" folks? I think they'll go McCain. - Bowser - 10/30/2008 1:22:19 AM
  - Redefining the "Undecided" vote as the "Leave me the **** alone" vote. - Mary Anne - 10/30/2008 3:19:43 PM
- If anyone remembers, I got the last one exactly right. - REB - 10/29/2008 5:25:48 PM
  - A divided nation (n/t) - E.P. - 10/29/2008 8:01:33 PM
    - It wouldn't be the first time. - REB - 10/30/2008 2:44:10 PM
      - The election of 1984 was something magical. - Lee - 10/30/2008 7:15:40 PM
        
        Yeah, like the tornado in the Wizard of Oz. - Mary Anne - 11/4/2008 1:37:50 PM
        
        More like an obvious landslide for Reagan - Socrates II - 11/3/2008 9:33:06 PM
  - And Congratulations HZ Democrats on Obama's victory... - REB - 10/29/2008 6:11:01 PM
- Are you kidding? I won't even change the calendar month page the day before. - Mary Anne - 10/29/2008 11:27:59 AM
- I think it will be a significant win. - alcaray - 10/29/2008 4:31:15 AM
- "The Messianic Style" - TB - 10/29/2008 4:23:06 AM
  - A refreshing change. - Mary Anne - 10/29/2008 11:19:41 AM
    - Almost every damn tyrant in human history had "charisma" - TB - 10/29/2008 3:06:33 PM
      - So did Alexander Hamilton and John Kennedy. - Mary Anne - 10/29/2008 8:22:17 PM
      - re: Almost every damn tyrant in human history had "charisma" - Marcia - 10/29/2008 7:35:33 PM
        
        You just can't throw accusations like that out Marcia - azstrummer - 10/29/2008 8:18:49 PM
        
        re: - also. - Marcia - 10/29/2008 7:53:29 PM
        
        re: - also, I should have known better (and she does)... it's "believe me"... - Marcia - 10/29/2008 7:56:42 PM
      - Well it was close to responding - azstrummer - 10/29/2008 5:53:53 PM
        
        re: responding - TB - 10/29/2008 10:21:12 PM
        
        Tell you what: - Mary Anne - 10/30/2008 3:04:42 AM
        
        re: Tell you what: - TB - 10/30/2008 4:12:21 AM
        
        The usual result of my "responding" to you is that eventually you throw a tantrum and leave. - Jody - 10/30/2008 12:56:37 AM
        
        Jody - azstrummer - 10/30/2008 4:35:47 PM
        
        I am NOT Mortimer Snerd Art. (n/t) - Jody - 10/31/2008 9:24:05 PM
        
        BTW Art.... - Jody - 11/1/2008 5:03:18 PM
        
        Yuk yuk yuk! (n/t) - TB - 10/31/2008 10:13:33 PM
        
        Just a side comment about the non-existent "crush"... - Mary Anne - 10/31/2008 3:49:45 AM
        
        Shorter version: - TB - 10/30/2008 4:53:35 PM
        
        This whole damn thread's gone to hell - McFly - 10/30/2008 5:49:33 PM
        
        So has my waist... - Jody - 10/30/2008 5:56:55 PM
        
        The check... - Darth TB - 10/30/2008 5:53:55 PM
        
        LOL...woulda gotten away with it except for those meddling Jedi! (n/t) - McFly - 10/30/2008 6:14:30 PM
        
        ROTFLMAO!! - Jody humming..show me the way to go home - 10/30/2008 6:01:34 PM
        
        Cookies - Mary Anne - 10/30/2008 2:22:18 AM
        
        White Flag - Jody - 10/30/2008 4:18:31 AM
        
        A generous reply. Thank you. - Mary Anne - 10/30/2008 3:44:20 PM
        
        You're being much to hard on yourself - McFly - 10/30/2008 1:14:05 PM
        
        Yeah..I always have been McFly...It's a Karma thing. - Jody - 10/30/2008 5:48:53 PM
    - re: A refreshing change. - azstrummer - 10/29/2008 1:57:19 PM
    - Thank you, MA - McFly - 10/29/2008 1:23:03 PM
  - It seems like a typical, 'how do you think the election will turn out' thread to me. - alcaray - 10/29/2008 4:29:17 AM
    - It is precisely the way Palin answers questions. - Bowser - 10/29/2008 6:11:02 AM
    - "You would think one or two..." - TB - 10/29/2008 4:39:50 AM
      - Another cookie!! - McFly - 10/29/2008 1:29:20 PM
    - (I think your head may be exploding) (n/t) - alcaray - 10/29/2008 4:29:55 AM
- Obama by a landslide - Eric - 10/29/2008 2:37:56 AM
- Obama - Eri - 10/29/2008 12:34:15 AM
- Obama wins - Lindy - 10/28/2008 11:42:07 PM
- Sure. - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/28/2008 11:09:49 PM
  - Sure sounds optimistic - azstrummer - 10/29/2008 7:35:25 PM
    - Optimism. - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/2/2008 6:09:45 PM
- I really don't know - Yeti - 10/28/2008 9:03:15 PM
  - Secret service - azstrummer - 10/28/2008 9:22:10 PM
    - Way back when I had a Secret Service Agent for a roommate. - Bowser - 10/28/2008 11:02:29 PM
      - Hey not that there's nothing wrong with that. - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/29/2008 2:45:55 AM
        
        That was 30 years ago - nick hoffman - 10/29/2008 11:11:42 AM
      - That was fascinating, thank you (n/t) - McFly - 10/29/2008 1:58:04 AM
- From Canada, I predict Obama - Laurie Street - 10/28/2008 8:14:15 PM
  - re: From Canada, I predict Obama - azstrummer - 10/28/2008 9:20:19 PM
    - Bring it on. - Lee - 10/29/2008 3:56:06 PM
    - Scenario # 3 - Bowser - 10/28/2008 11:06:28 PM
      - Bush & Cronies - Lindy - 10/28/2008 11:30:36 PM
    - Civil war? - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/28/2008 10:29:16 PM
      - "McCain, a closet social liberal...." - Lindy - 10/28/2008 11:32:04 PM
        
        re: "McCain, a closet social liberal...." - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/29/2008 2:34:02 AM
  - Probably I'm all wet on the college.... (n/t) - LS - 10/28/2008 8:58:46 PM
- Here's my prediction - azstrummer - 10/28/2008 8:00:05 PM
- Obama*** - RNE - 10/28/2008 7:34:26 PM
- Obama to win popular vote by 7, and EV by 353-185 (n/t) - z - 10/28/2008 5:38:17 PM

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