Interstellar travel is impossible, not just uneconomical

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Interstellar travel is impossible, not just uneconomical

mip — 6/5/2009 2:44:05 AM (archived)

Paradox resolved.

You know, if you really want to find out what aliens are like, try engineering some. Call it the Diversity project, or something. Greens would love that. Imagine how different species (even different families of creatures) would behave if they were made as intelligent as us.

Would a dolphin really approach science in the same way as we do? Or would it's perspective offer a novel insight, something we would never think of.

Would it be ethical to engineer a new intelligent species just to find out if it would take a different approach to space science, or mathematics, or literature. Or would we be dooming it to the same fate as us?

I say we find out.

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Aliens may have economic issues, too - Socrates II - 6/4/2009 6:17:23 PM
- Think of seeds, not ivy+another solution to the paradox - sawyer - 6/6/2009 12:11:38 PM
- re: Aliens may have economic issues, too - Buck Galaxy - 6/5/2009 4:51:57 AM
  - Does ALIEN LIFE have 2 Have Bodies? - carl - 6/5/2009 7:47:29 PM
    - Life as we do not know it. - ER - 6/5/2009 9:47:37 PM
      - re: Life as we do not know it. - Marsby - 6/6/2009 5:27:52 AM
        
        Furs, tobacco and Aztec silver. - ER - 6/6/2009 12:08:53 PM
    - Can beings exist as pure energy? - Socrates II - 6/5/2009 8:15:43 PM
- Maybe the answer is to use fewer resources... - AHB - 6/5/2009 3:38:41 AM
- Interstellar travel is impossible, not just uneconomical - mip - 6/5/2009 2:44:05 AM
  - False - Fusion sufficient - Marsby - 6/6/2009 4:53:53 AM
    - 'fraid not - mip - 6/6/2009 2:25:46 PM
      - 1 a non issue, 2 is a potential issue - Marsby - 6/6/2009 5:21:40 PM
        
        LOL - mip - 6/6/2009 10:17:36 PM
        
        LOL=Nothing Inelligent to add - Marsby - 6/8/2009 2:41:51 AM
        
        re: LOL - gbaikie - 6/7/2009 2:01:56 AM
        
        Are you actually suggesting - mip - 6/7/2009 4:15:09 AM
        
        re: Are you actually suggesting - gbaikie - 6/7/2009 12:01:07 PM
        
        Delta-V is only one criterion - mip - 6/7/2009 3:00:45 PM
  - Engineering Aliens - Think of Ayn Rand and Robert Heinlein - ER - 6/5/2009 11:37:46 AM
    - FAST interstellar travel has a lot of hurdles for us at present - Socrates II - 6/5/2009 1:37:53 PM
      - We put our human limitations on any possible aliens. - REB - 6/5/2009 2:52:15 PM
        
        Not trying to - Socrates II - 6/5/2009 3:13:09 PM
        
        re: Not trying to - phil - 6/5/2009 11:38:09 PM
        
        But what if that one species showed up a long time ago and left? - Socrates II - 6/6/2009 2:54:46 AM
        
        Like I said, interstellar travel is impossible - mip - 6/6/2009 2:53:52 AM
        
        Anthropocentric assumptions abound - S - 6/6/2009 6:19:06 PM
        
        Wishful Thinking - mip - 6/6/2009 10:40:12 PM
        
        That's simply an anthropocentric POV - S - 6/6/2009 11:03:56 PM
        
        Utter Bilge - mip - 6/6/2009 11:12:13 PM
        
        For humans (n/t) - S - 6/6/2009 11:41:27 PM
        
        Yes, and apparently for all life in the universe as well (n/t) - mip - 6/7/2009 1:03:18 AM
        
        According to J. Richard Gott the Third - Socrates II - 6/8/2009 2:36:27 PM
        
        The Flawed Assumption - Marsby - 6/6/2009 5:13:07 AM
        
        Okay, maybe I am the slow one, but... - Socrates II - 6/6/2009 3:02:25 AM
        
        Please allow me..... to shoot it down - mip - 6/6/2009 2:14:08 PM
        
        What about slow interstellar travel in general? - Socrates II - 6/7/2009 12:49:09 PM
        
        re: What about slow interstellar travel in general? - mip - 6/7/2009 2:57:56 PM
        
        Why don't you want humans to have interstellar travel, mip? - Socrates II - 6/8/2009 1:50:29 PM
        
        re: Why don't you want humans to have interstellar travel, mip? - gbaikie - 6/8/2009 8:29:36 PM
        
        Who in this solar system is building actual starships? - Socrates II - 6/8/2009 8:48:25 PM
        
        re: Who in this solar system is building actual starships? - gbaikie - 6/9/2009 4:22:10 AM
        
        re: something small, at light speed - nick hoffman - 6/9/2009 2:21:48 PM
        
        re: something small, at light speed - gbaikie - 6/10/2009 2:59:12 AM
- re: Aliens may have economic issues, too - phil - 6/4/2009 11:36:01 PM
  - They did not make the assumption that you belittled them for making. (n/t) - alcaray - 6/5/2009 2:04:50 AM
    - Uh read the quote - Marsby - 6/5/2009 4:48:13 AM
      - re: Uh read the quote - alcaray - 6/5/2009 8:06:32 PM
        
        Focus - Marsby - 6/6/2009 4:44:42 AM
        
        Just turn the knob to the right, a little bit (or in Phil's case, to the left). - alcaray - 6/6/2009 5:14:40 AM
        
        Simplifying It - Marsby - 6/6/2009 5:34:53 AM
        
        I agree with you in that I do not "think it is a reasonable assumption". - alcaray - 6/6/2009 5:52:49 AM
        
        re: I agree with you in that I do not "think it is a reasonable assumption". - Marsby - 6/6/2009 5:57:51 AM
      - re: Uh read the quote - phil - 6/5/2009 12:54:20 PM
- Speculative - Raoul - 6/4/2009 8:53:55 PM
- re: Aliens may have economic issues, too - gbaikie - 6/4/2009 7:57:17 PM

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