Okay, maybe I am the slow one, but...

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Okay, maybe I am the slow one, but...

Socrates II — 6/6/2009 3:02:25 AM (archived)

A relatively slow-moving, self-sustaining starship like this one is impossible?

http://the-up.org/Site/The-UP.html

How is it I have not heard of these issues before?

And why must we always assume that all ETI, especially the advanced ones,
are not nice? Or at least let us go for indifferent.

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Aliens may have economic issues, too - Socrates II - 6/4/2009 6:17:23 PM
- Think of seeds, not ivy+another solution to the paradox - sawyer - 6/6/2009 12:11:38 PM
- re: Aliens may have economic issues, too - Buck Galaxy - 6/5/2009 4:51:57 AM
  - Does ALIEN LIFE have 2 Have Bodies? - carl - 6/5/2009 7:47:29 PM
    - Life as we do not know it. - ER - 6/5/2009 9:47:37 PM
      - re: Life as we do not know it. - Marsby - 6/6/2009 5:27:52 AM
        
        Furs, tobacco and Aztec silver. - ER - 6/6/2009 12:08:53 PM
    - Can beings exist as pure energy? - Socrates II - 6/5/2009 8:15:43 PM
- Maybe the answer is to use fewer resources... - AHB - 6/5/2009 3:38:41 AM
- Interstellar travel is impossible, not just uneconomical - mip - 6/5/2009 2:44:05 AM
  - False - Fusion sufficient - Marsby - 6/6/2009 4:53:53 AM
    - 'fraid not - mip - 6/6/2009 2:25:46 PM
      - 1 a non issue, 2 is a potential issue - Marsby - 6/6/2009 5:21:40 PM
        
        LOL - mip - 6/6/2009 10:17:36 PM
        
        LOL=Nothing Inelligent to add - Marsby - 6/8/2009 2:41:51 AM
        
        re: LOL - gbaikie - 6/7/2009 2:01:56 AM
        
        Are you actually suggesting - mip - 6/7/2009 4:15:09 AM
        
        re: Are you actually suggesting - gbaikie - 6/7/2009 12:01:07 PM
        
        Delta-V is only one criterion - mip - 6/7/2009 3:00:45 PM
  - Engineering Aliens - Think of Ayn Rand and Robert Heinlein - ER - 6/5/2009 11:37:46 AM
    - FAST interstellar travel has a lot of hurdles for us at present - Socrates II - 6/5/2009 1:37:53 PM
      - We put our human limitations on any possible aliens. - REB - 6/5/2009 2:52:15 PM
        
        Not trying to - Socrates II - 6/5/2009 3:13:09 PM
        
        re: Not trying to - phil - 6/5/2009 11:38:09 PM
        
        But what if that one species showed up a long time ago and left? - Socrates II - 6/6/2009 2:54:46 AM
        
        Like I said, interstellar travel is impossible - mip - 6/6/2009 2:53:52 AM
        
        Anthropocentric assumptions abound - S - 6/6/2009 6:19:06 PM
        
        Wishful Thinking - mip - 6/6/2009 10:40:12 PM
        
        That's simply an anthropocentric POV - S - 6/6/2009 11:03:56 PM
        
        Utter Bilge - mip - 6/6/2009 11:12:13 PM
        
        For humans (n/t) - S - 6/6/2009 11:41:27 PM
        
        Yes, and apparently for all life in the universe as well (n/t) - mip - 6/7/2009 1:03:18 AM
        
        According to J. Richard Gott the Third - Socrates II - 6/8/2009 2:36:27 PM
        
        The Flawed Assumption - Marsby - 6/6/2009 5:13:07 AM
        
        Okay, maybe I am the slow one, but... - Socrates II - 6/6/2009 3:02:25 AM
        
        Please allow me..... to shoot it down - mip - 6/6/2009 2:14:08 PM
        
        What about slow interstellar travel in general? - Socrates II - 6/7/2009 12:49:09 PM
        
        re: What about slow interstellar travel in general? - mip - 6/7/2009 2:57:56 PM
        
        Why don't you want humans to have interstellar travel, mip? - Socrates II - 6/8/2009 1:50:29 PM
        
        re: Why don't you want humans to have interstellar travel, mip? - gbaikie - 6/8/2009 8:29:36 PM
        
        Who in this solar system is building actual starships? - Socrates II - 6/8/2009 8:48:25 PM
        
        re: Who in this solar system is building actual starships? - gbaikie - 6/9/2009 4:22:10 AM
        
        re: something small, at light speed - nick hoffman - 6/9/2009 2:21:48 PM
        
        re: something small, at light speed - gbaikie - 6/10/2009 2:59:12 AM
- re: Aliens may have economic issues, too - phil - 6/4/2009 11:36:01 PM
  - They did not make the assumption that you belittled them for making. (n/t) - alcaray - 6/5/2009 2:04:50 AM
    - Uh read the quote - Marsby - 6/5/2009 4:48:13 AM
      - re: Uh read the quote - alcaray - 6/5/2009 8:06:32 PM
        
        Focus - Marsby - 6/6/2009 4:44:42 AM
        
        Just turn the knob to the right, a little bit (or in Phil's case, to the left). - alcaray - 6/6/2009 5:14:40 AM
        
        Simplifying It - Marsby - 6/6/2009 5:34:53 AM
        
        I agree with you in that I do not "think it is a reasonable assumption". - alcaray - 6/6/2009 5:52:49 AM
        
        re: I agree with you in that I do not "think it is a reasonable assumption". - Marsby - 6/6/2009 5:57:51 AM
      - re: Uh read the quote - phil - 6/5/2009 12:54:20 PM
- Speculative - Raoul - 6/4/2009 8:53:55 PM
- re: Aliens may have economic issues, too - gbaikie - 6/4/2009 7:57:17 PM

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