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So what happened to the USS Porter? - ER - 8/19/2012 2:50:03 AM
- The US military is never candid about it's mistakes. - bowser - 8/20/2012 5:30:28 AM
  - I'm not convinced this was a mistake. - ER - 8/20/2012 2:32:47 PM
    - Scale - Ainz - 8/22/2012 1:06:08 AM
      - Great job with the animation! - ER - 8/22/2012 2:42:36 AM
      - Re: Scale - podrock - 8/22/2012 1:16:22 AM

Number Nine, Number Nine - ER - 8/21/2012 6:34:38 PM
- It is kind of crazy that the Republicans would choose Tampa... - alcaray - 8/21/2012 8:05:56 PM
  - I'm sure the hall can take the winds. And maybe the flooding. - ER - 8/21/2012 8:47:58 PM

Fires, Pine Beatles, and Logging - RobVG - 8/15/2012 3:55:53 PM
- Re: Fires, Pine Beatles, and Logging - podrock - 8/16/2012 3:21:21 AM
  - It's an issue like gun control or abortion. - RobVG - 8/17/2012 3:42:02 PM
    - The Four-mile fire study - podrock - 8/17/2012 5:53:52 PM
    - As with all environmental issues, this is a very complicated equation. - TB - 8/17/2012 4:44:10 PM
- Were Pine Beatles part of the British invasion? - alcaray - 8/15/2012 5:37:12 PM
- This is an old debate, - ER - 8/15/2012 5:32:25 PM
  - "Should the land be kept in reserve, for esthetic reasons, or be used to maximize human benefit?" - TB - 8/15/2012 6:22:28 PM
    - Including Native American land in that graphic is very misleading. - alcaray - 8/15/2012 6:44:04 PM
      - A valid point... - TB - 8/15/2012 11:48:30 PM
    - A real world example of two ways of doing things: Pacific Lumber Company. - TB - 8/15/2012 6:36:36 PM
- The Pine Beatle says... - TB - 8/15/2012 5:05:17 PM
  - Re: The Pine Beatle says... - Jody - 8/15/2012 5:47:03 PM
    - "So, I lit a fire, isn't it good, Norwegian wood?" - ER - 8/15/2012 6:10:02 PM
      - Re: "So, I lit a fire, isn't it good, Norwegian wood?" - Jody - 8/16/2012 1:12:58 AM
  - Ah, you got me. - alcaray - 8/15/2012 5:40:08 PM
- That's a real circular problem with no answer. - bowser - 8/15/2012 4:20:56 PM

GOP fantasy world - BuckGalaxy - 8/17/2012 5:13:32 PM

Saudi Arabia tells people to leave Lebanon immediately. - Jody - 8/15/2012 5:53:07 PM
- Uh-oh. - ER - 8/15/2012 6:01:24 PM
  - Re: Uh-oh. - Jody - 8/15/2012 6:21:15 PM
    - I was hoping it was some grand geopolitical maneuver... - ER - 8/15/2012 6:46:27 PM
      - Re: I was hoping it was some grand geopolitical maneuver... - Jody - 8/15/2012 7:11:39 PM

Navigation Lights--the Movie. - ER - 8/14/2012 3:53:26 PM
- "No Bowser, your other left!" - bowser - 8/15/2012 4:35:45 PM
- Hell, I still can't keep it in my head whether the red light is on the left or right. - TB - 8/14/2012 4:07:29 PM
  - It's probably easier when you have a red light on your left wing and a green one to your right. - alcaray - 8/14/2012 9:33:05 PM
    - Tom's plane doesn't have a left wing. - ER - 8/14/2012 11:35:19 PM
      - Re: Tom's plane doesn't have a left wing. - TB - 8/14/2012 11:46:42 PM
        
        Hah! - alcaray - 8/15/2012 2:00:35 AM
  - My wife can't tell her left from her right either. - ER - 8/14/2012 5:10:26 PM

Sunnunu gets the smackdown for lying about Medicare - BuckGalaxy - 8/15/2012 4:06:49 PM

"Collision at sea can ruin your whole day." - ER - 8/13/2012 1:54:44 PM
- Porter - Ainz - 8/14/2012 12:09:33 AM
  - The press don't know squat. - ER - 8/14/2012 12:57:53 AM
- Wait a minute... - TB - 8/13/2012 3:51:38 PM
  - Left W.R.T. the course of the tin can, not the oiler. - ER - 8/13/2012 4:19:11 PM
    - Ah. Somehow I was visualizing them both going the same way. - TB - 8/13/2012 5:04:26 PM
      - That could cause a collision! - ER - 8/13/2012 6:23:17 PM
    - PS - ER - 8/13/2012 4:28:07 PM

Randian Ryan Reprise - ER - 8/13/2012 2:50:55 AM

Randian Ryan has spent his life feeding at the government trough - BuckGalaxy - 8/13/2012 12:50:25 AM
- But have you noticed... - ER - 8/13/2012 2:20:40 AM

Republican David Frum describes Dems first attack ad against Ryan - BuckGalaxy - 8/12/2012 5:11:10 AM
- From a purely tactical standpoint, - ER - 8/12/2012 11:19:10 AM
  - A le Carre quote? - alcaray - 8/12/2012 5:57:31 PM
    - Yes, but its a paraphrase, from memory. - ER - 8/12/2012 6:34:30 PM
      - His prose is very dense. I could not remember a quote to save my life. - alcaray - 8/12/2012 9:13:12 PM
        
        Google "George Smiley", quotes. - ER - 8/12/2012 9:47:06 PM
        
        Haven't seen the recent film, but I agree on the Alec Guinness projects. - alcaray - 8/13/2012 2:11:38 AM

The heat must be getting to the Mittster. - ER - 8/11/2012 4:37:44 AM
- Not saying it was the reason... - alcaray - 8/12/2012 9:16:03 PM
  - It's not so much who he picked, - ER - 8/12/2012 10:03:13 PM
    - I addressed why he might have picked now. You get a bump when you announce. - alcaray - 8/13/2012 2:05:30 AM
- Very strange, indeed. - bowser - 8/11/2012 7:25:58 PM
- And why now? - ER - 8/11/2012 1:14:15 PM
  - My theory - BuckGalaxy - 8/11/2012 6:43:25 PM
- comment withdrawn - podrock - 8/11/2012 5:05:49 AM

Culture of Fraud in the Romney Campaign - BuckGalaxy - 8/11/2012 7:09:27 PM
- Romney sure does lie a lot doesn't he? - BuckGalaxy - 8/11/2012 7:15:07 PM
  - test - alcaray - 8/12/2012 2:04:33 AM
    - Re: test - podrock - 8/12/2012 4:56:56 AM
    - I am defeated. - alcaray - 8/12/2012 2:06:08 AM
  - "He’s snipped out sentences from an Obama speech and spliced the two halves back together so nobody could tell what he did." - alcaray - 8/12/2012 1:47:45 AM
    - Where's the link? - ER - 8/12/2012 1:49:26 AM
      - I'm struggling with the link. - alcaray - 8/12/2012 1:53:42 AM
        
        I finally found it.--The Jon Stewart deconstruction. - ER - 8/12/2012 2:01:54 AM
        
        I remember now! - ER - 8/12/2012 2:13:02 AM
  - I once made the case to a conservative... - ER - 8/11/2012 8:00:15 PM

Jon Huntsman Sr. calls for Romney to release his taxes - BuckGalaxy - 8/10/2012 8:10:34 PM
- Re: Jon Huntsman Sr. calls for Romney to release his taxes - Jody - 8/11/2012 12:38:17 AM
  - Re: Jon Huntsman Sr. calls for Romney to release his taxes - Jody - 8/11/2012 5:31:16 AM
    - He has only released the returns that show no embarassing information. - ER - 8/11/2012 11:58:32 AM
  - Check out the post thread below I titled "Seriously, here is why Mitt Romney MUST come clean on his taxes..." - BuckGalaxy - 8/11/2012 3:36:13 AM
    - Re: Check out the post thread below I titled "Seriously, here is why Mitt Romney MUST come clean on his taxes..." - Jody - 8/11/2012 5:26:39 AM
- When this first started, there were several Republicans who recommended that he disclose his taxes. - alcaray - 8/10/2012 8:44:58 PM
  - I am curious why ER and TB think this thread is about Reid, though. n/t - alcaray - 8/10/2012 10:16:56 PM
    - Its not about Reid. - ER - 8/11/2012 12:07:03 AM
  - The story is over. - ER - 8/10/2012 9:43:25 PM
    - Far from it - BuckGalaxy - 8/11/2012 12:24:55 AM
    - Re: The story is over. - TB - 8/10/2012 11:19:18 PM
      - Yeah, you guys are experts at that... - ER - 8/10/2012 11:51:05 PM
        
        Yeah. - TB - 8/11/2012 12:21:56 AM
        
        You're not even bothering to deny it, are you? - ER - 8/11/2012 12:44:27 AM
  - Actually... - TB - 8/10/2012 9:38:51 PM
    - Well it's certainly not a load of crap that modern presidents disclose their income taxes. - alcaray - 8/10/2012 10:15:45 PM
      - McCain released only two years of returns, just like Romney. - TB - 8/10/2012 11:17:24 PM
        
        "Reid is lying" - BuckGalaxy - 8/11/2012 12:53:04 AM
        
        I can see you're really upset about this, TB. - ER - 8/10/2012 11:36:53 PM
        
        Heh. - TB - 8/10/2012 11:47:16 PM
        
        Re: Heh. - TB - 8/10/2012 11:51:07 PM
        
        yes and I responded to it. - BuckGalaxy - 8/11/2012 3:37:05 AM
        
        It seemed to have to do with Reid, so I disregarded it. Is it germain, after all? - alcaray - 8/10/2012 11:55:19 PM
        
        That's what I thought. - TB - 8/11/2012 12:24:21 AM
        
        You did not answer the question. Was it a germain link? If it was I will go and study the thing and apologize. - alcaray - 8/11/2012 1:26:28 AM
        
        Not about Reid. And Romney has not released 2 years yet. One is mysteriously amended, till he discloses the new version. - alcaray - 8/10/2012 11:34:09 PM

Caption Contest - podrock - 8/9/2012 6:00:00 AM
- "Haha I'm so far above the rest of you little people!" - BuckGalaxy - 8/10/2012 8:08:02 PM
- Re: Caption Contest - Jody - 8/9/2012 5:42:51 PM
- Re: Caption Contest - Jody - 8/9/2012 3:39:42 PM
- Re: Caption Contest - podrock - 8/9/2012 1:57:25 PM
- "If you don't shut up about Romneycare, we will remove your base," n/t - alcaray - 8/9/2012 7:44:26 AM
- Romney practicing standing on the Republican platform. - bowser - 8/9/2012 6:21:19 AM

Next time you order from Amazon... - Jody - 8/9/2012 5:44:16 PM
- Wow! Christmas in August :^) - FrankC - 8/9/2012 6:41:08 PM
  - Re: Wow! Christmas in August :^) - Jody - 8/9/2012 6:57:39 PM

The Democrats' Duty: Bring the GOP Back from Crazy - BuckGalaxy - 8/7/2012 2:32:12 AM
- I left out the last paragraph which explains his point - BuckGalaxy - 8/8/2012 7:29:17 AM
  - Well, the Democrats better hurry up. - ER - 8/8/2012 1:04:28 PM
- I'm afraid this is all going to just have to work itself out. - ER - 8/7/2012 4:29:28 AM
  - from "The Second Coming" - ER - 8/7/2012 4:44:37 AM
- Yea, good luck with that. n/t - alcaray - 8/7/2012 3:43:43 AM
- Can't do it, Buck. - bowser - 8/7/2012 3:40:50 AM

Seriously, here is why Mitt Romney MUST come clean on his taxes... - BuckGalaxy - 8/8/2012 7:43:43 AM
- Re: Seriously, here is why Mitt Romney MUST come clean on his taxes... - ER - 8/8/2012 1:03:26 PM

Another shooting( Wisconsin)...seven dead. - Jody - 8/6/2012 2:58:24 AM
- I guess its only a matter of time before the Liberals make it into a political thing. - ER - 8/6/2012 3:05:39 AM
  - Let's not have a rush to judgment. - bowser - 8/7/2012 3:36:02 AM
  - Hammers don't drive nails, carpenters drive nails. Remember that. - bowser - 8/6/2012 9:41:48 PM
    - Earthquakes don't kill people. Falling masonry kills people. - ER - 8/7/2012 12:11:05 AM
      - Holding someone underwater doesn't kill people. Lack of oxygen kills people. - bowser - 8/7/2012 3:22:45 AM
  - I had a thought. - bowser - 8/6/2012 3:56:42 PM
  - Re: I guess its only a matter of time before the Liberals make it into a political thing. - Jody - 8/6/2012 3:27:10 AM
    - I was just being a jerk. - ER - 8/6/2012 3:48:23 AM
      - Can't have that. - Robert - 8/6/2012 5:06:53 AM
        
        Functional ambiguity - ER - 8/6/2012 9:35:17 PM
        
        Yep, a Neo-nazi - FrankC - 8/6/2012 5:53:26 PM
        
        They have been tracking this cretin for 10 years! - FrankC - 8/6/2012 6:10:17 PM

The July figures are in, - ER - 8/6/2012 9:50:59 PM

Electoral Landslide? - BuckGalaxy - 8/5/2012 7:19:52 AM
- Obama may win, - ER - 8/5/2012 1:54:28 PM
  - Disconnect from reality. - Lee - 8/5/2012 7:54:26 PM
    - Maybe the reason I can't "see the truth" is that I'm not white. n/t - ER - 8/5/2012 8:10:45 PM
    - The vast majority of illiterate people are emmigrants. - alcaray - 8/5/2012 8:10:34 PM
      - Re: The vast majority of illiterate people are emmigrants. - TB - 8/6/2012 12:39:41 AM
        
        People who cannot process Roman letters. n/t - alcaray - 8/6/2012 7:59:15 AM
  - Could it be better for Obama to lose this time? - FrankC - 8/5/2012 6:04:36 PM
    - You might have a point. - ER - 8/5/2012 8:55:31 PM
      - Interesting. - TB - 8/6/2012 1:10:50 AM
        
        Not just interesting, its obvious. - ER - 8/6/2012 2:18:56 AM
        
        Say it as slowly as you like. - TB - 8/6/2012 4:16:15 AM
        
        Sisyphus Shrugged - ER - 8/6/2012 4:51:24 AM
        
        Answer: - TB - 8/6/2012 6:12:13 AM
        
        Long term unemployment is stressful, and it is destructive. - ER - 8/6/2012 12:12:59 PM
- There's a lot of Republican Citizen's United money to be spent between now and the election. - alcaray - 8/5/2012 9:34:03 AM
  - Plus fed money that can't be spent until after the convention. - FrankC - 8/5/2012 6:08:24 PM

The Great Utah box canyon bushwack. - ER - 8/3/2012 2:19:03 PM
- Entertaining. - BuckGalaxy - 8/4/2012 6:58:00 AM
  - You've made some good points below, some which I hadn't thought of. - ER - 8/4/2012 12:11:29 PM
- Careful with the theories. - TB - 8/3/2012 4:02:17 PM
  - "And ask yourself this: If there’s nothing damaging in his returns, Romney could now, in one stroke, annihilate Harry Reid’s reputation in Washington. So why hasn’t he released them?" - BuckGalaxy - 8/4/2012 7:10:27 AM
  - Sigh. Gee I wish there was something Romney could do to end this entire issue??? - BuckGalaxy - 8/4/2012 6:57:08 AM
    - Sure there is. - TB - 8/4/2012 3:29:59 PM
      - So a presidential candidate doesn't have to be as transparent as a cabinet appointee? - BuckGalaxy - 8/4/2012 6:40:17 PM
        
        Nope. - TB - 8/4/2012 7:15:39 PM
        
        "If he was so good at ducking taxes, why did he stop?" - BuckGalaxy - 8/5/2012 1:29:40 AM
        
        Re: "If he was so good at ducking taxes, why did he stop?" - podrock - 8/5/2012 2:12:27 AM
        
        And once more... - TB - 8/4/2012 7:21:35 PM
        
        Maybe they should? - BuckGalaxy - 8/5/2012 1:31:14 AM
      - Move along, citizen, move along Nothing here to see... - ER - 8/4/2012 4:16:29 PM
        
        Exactly. - TB - 8/4/2012 4:29:07 PM
        
        But its OK to demand to see Obama's Harvard grades brought into question? - ER - 8/4/2012 5:17:26 PM
    - And... - BuckGalaxy - 8/4/2012 8:27:36 AM
  - Meanwhile... - TB - 8/3/2012 4:18:48 PM
    - You do get so ANGRY. - ER - 8/3/2012 4:42:56 PM
      - Angry? - TB - 8/3/2012 4:56:09 PM
        
        Yes. Angry. - ER - 8/3/2012 5:19:33 PM
        
        I like your use of the word pander... - FrankC - 8/3/2012 6:01:30 PM
        
        Re: I like your use of the word pander... - Jody - 8/3/2012 7:57:52 PM
        
        I find very little to disagree with your assessment. - ER - 8/3/2012 6:31:21 PM
        
        Definitions: - TB - 8/3/2012 5:31:19 PM
        
        Reframing again? - ER - 8/3/2012 6:10:29 PM
        
        Again... - TB - 8/3/2012 7:04:02 PM
        
        Who's the hypocrite now? - ER - 8/3/2012 7:41:30 PM
        
        "NO ONE thinks taxes should be higher, or government bigger." - TB - 8/3/2012 9:22:38 PM
        
        I've already covered that. - ER - 8/3/2012 9:56:41 PM
        
        As big as necessary? - TB - 8/3/2012 10:47:54 PM
        
        I see now... - ER - 8/3/2012 8:25:28 PM
        
        I edited that post to make it clearer. - TB - 8/3/2012 8:31:08 PM

Gator bait. - ER - 8/4/2012 4:12:14 PM
- He'll have to catch the book in his other hand. - TB - 8/4/2012 4:31:48 PM
  - This guy had no excuse. - ER - 8/5/2012 12:31:10 AM

It's not just the heat, it's the humidity - ER - 8/4/2012 8:34:10 PM

Ted Cruz wins in Texas (n/t) (n/t) - TB - 8/1/2012 2:53:39 AM
- Tom, nobody cares what is happening in Texas. - ER - 8/2/2012 1:16:32 AM
  - Heh. - TB - 8/2/2012 1:31:48 AM
    - I asked you before, below... - alcaray - 8/2/2012 5:11:19 AM
      - Honest ignorance is no crime. It's the starting point for finding out anything. - TB - 8/2/2012 4:26:50 PM
        
        I see. - alcaray - 8/2/2012 9:46:31 PM
        
        Palin, Hannity, DeMint, Freedom Works, Santorum, Schlafly, Citizens United - ER - 8/2/2012 5:48:53 PM
      - All you need to know about this guy is who officially endorses him. - ER - 8/2/2012 1:04:19 PM
    - Let him flail. It's been amusing. n/t - RobVG - 8/2/2012 2:55:56 AM
    - So how do you keep up with your GOP heroes? - ER - 8/2/2012 1:39:06 AM
- "He believes Hispanics are — by reasons of faith, industriousness and patriotism — natural Republicans." -George Will, about Ted Cruz - alcaray - 8/1/2012 8:23:01 PM
  - I want to see his green card. - ER - 8/1/2012 8:58:04 PM
    - Both his parents are U.S. citizens - TB - 8/1/2012 9:38:19 PM
      - Had you scared there for a minute, didn't I? n/t - ER - 8/1/2012 9:49:14 PM
        
        Why? - TB - 8/2/2012 12:13:27 AM
        
        Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. - ER - 8/2/2012 12:42:03 AM
        
        Re: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. - TB - 8/2/2012 1:00:47 AM
        
        You'd win. Imagine a carton with a dozen eggs. - bowser - 8/3/2012 4:52:47 AM
        
        I did not. Am I bad? n/t - alcaray - 8/2/2012 1:07:45 AM
        
        You would have lost. - ER - 8/2/2012 1:07:36 AM
- Re: Ted Cruz wins in Texas (n/t) - Jody - 8/1/2012 5:43:53 PM

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