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re: hold on, yourself

Davin L. — 3/11/2004 4:21:00 AM (archived)

Okay: List of nato members not inc'l america( from , updated Jan 2003):
Belgium
Canada
Czech Republic
Denmark
France
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Iceland
Italy
Luxembourg
The Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Spain
Turkey
United Kingdom

List of coalition:
Afghanistan
Albania
Australia
Azerbaijan
Bulgaria
Colombia
Costa Rica
Czech Republic
Denmark
Dominican Republic
El Salvador
Eritrea
Estonia
Ethiopia
Georgia
Honduras
Hungary
Iceland
Italy
Japan
Kuwait
Latvia
Lithuania
Macedonia
Marshall Islands
Micronesia
Mongolia
Netherlands
Nicaragua
Palau
Panama
Philippines
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Rwanda
Singapore
Slovakia
Solomon Islands
South Korea
Spain
Turkey
Uganda
United Kingdom
United States
Uzbekistan

List of Nato member states in coalition

Czech Republic 1
Denmark 2
Hungary 3
Iceland 4
Italy 5
The Netherlands 6
Poland 7
Portugal 8
Spain 9
Turkey 10
United Kingdom 11

thats 11 out of 19 that are our partners. 2/3rds of 19 is 12.66, so not quite 2/3rds.. close to 10% off. But close.

The nato expansion states (marked with a * if they are in th coalition)
Estonia *
Latvia *
Lithuania *
Slovakia *
Slovenia
Romania *
Bulgaria. *

See what I mean?

My claim was: The expanded NATO states will loose american sponsorship (which they are getting a lot of: as per here) if they did not jump on the coalition. If you actually read the rhetoric in the lead up to the war, when the expansion state list was being vetted, then you simply can not deny the truth of this claim.

You took nato expansion states to be the 1999 inductees- I meant the pending may 2004 inuctees.

This could be a dead heat- I'm right and you're right.

Davin L.

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- OK. Well here goes. Iran, in the name of the Father (GHWB), the Son (GWB), the Holy Ghost (Dick Cheney) I rebuke thee and all thy stand for!! - Bowser - 3/10/2004 5:32:47 AM
  - You know, a normal person might think atomic weapons in the hands of the Ayatollahs is a bad idea. - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 7:57:18 AM
    - You know, a normal person might think atomic weapons in the hands of an Israeli war criminal is a bad idea. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/11/2004 6:36:23 AM
    - yeah, too bad - Davin L. - 3/10/2004 4:16:50 PM
      - One Addition. . . - Justin Kelly - 3/11/2004 4:34:27 AM
        
        re: One Addition. . . - Davin L. - 3/11/2004 4:39:52 AM
        
        Cakewalks - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 7:57:59 PM
        
        re: One Addition. . . - Justin Kelly - 3/11/2004 5:06:44 AM
        
        re: One Addition. . . - McFly - 3/11/2004 3:03:51 PM
        
        re: One Addition. . . - Justin Kelly - 3/12/2004 1:33:12 AM
        
        Thanks for your reply, Justin (n/t) - McFly - 3/12/2004 6:03:47 PM
        
        Amen.. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/11/2004 4:02:15 PM
        
        Well said, McFly. (n/t) - Davin L. - 3/11/2004 3:33:11 PM
        
        re: One Addition. . . - Davin L. - 3/11/2004 5:18:25 AM
        
        Iraq - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 8:00:52 PM
      - BTW... - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 5:35:16 PM
        
        re: BTW... - McFly - 3/10/2004 6:33:13 PM
        
        Iran - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 7:00:20 PM
        
        What do you think I am, an idiot? - Davin L. - 3/10/2004 6:16:11 PM
        
        You established that long ago. (n/t) - ebnelson - 3/11/2004 2:46:43 AM
        
        Is that a trick question? Sorry. Couldn't resist. ;) - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 6:47:08 PM
        
        re: Is that a trick question? Sorry. Couldn't resist. ;) - Davin L. - 3/10/2004 7:34:47 PM
        
        Incidentally, almost two-thirds of NATO are members of the Coalition. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 11:08:26 PM
        
        Funny how that happens: you expand NATO and make your sponsorship of the new members contingent upon them supporting the war. LOL (n/t) - Davin L. - 3/10/2004 11:15:21 PM
        
        Uncle Sugar supplies 'em, pays 'em, pays their countries, for a couple of hundred folks. - Bowser - 3/11/2004 2:03:21 AM
        
        Clever. Most unfortunately... - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 12:11:18 AM
        
        hold on there sparky - Davin L. - 3/11/2004 12:20:47 AM
        
        re: hold on, yourself - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 2:51:49 AM
        
        re: hold on, yourself - Davin L. - 3/11/2004 4:21:00 AM
        
        Okay, I counted the United States, which maybe wasn't strictly cricket. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 7:53:28 PM
        
        For the record... - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 2:58:27 AM
      - re: too bad - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 5:26:15 PM
        
        Tom Brosz timeless collection of H'Zone favorite old songs: - Davin L. - 3/10/2004 6:10:04 PM
        
        re: H'Zone favorite old songs: - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 6:38:29 PM
        
        Wow- you really must be desperate - Davin L. - 3/10/2004 7:24:09 PM
        
        re: Wow- you really must be desperate - gbaikie - 3/11/2004 1:00:35 AM
        
        re: Wow- you really must be desperate - Davin L. - 3/11/2004 4:33:27 AM
        
        re: Wow- you really must be desperate - gbaikie - 3/11/2004 7:08:17 AM
      - Excellent. You did forget The Ultimate Weapon. - Bowser - 3/10/2004 4:33:29 PM
    - Short quiz. Betcha won't answer, as the truth would hurt too much. - Bowser - 3/10/2004 3:43:34 PM
      - See my response to Davin. - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 6:24:25 PM
        
        Told you so. Told you so, told you so told you so. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/10/2004 8:28:34 PM
        
        Isn't it funny how he throws the term 'buttmonkey' around while he's this predictable in his responses and positions? - Davin L. - 3/10/2004 9:42:05 PM
        
        "RWBBM." Yeah...has a nice ring to it! (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 11:10:07 PM
        
        You could abbreviate it to... - Mary Anne - 3/11/2004 1:29:43 PM
        
        Try NOT recycling the lme arguments on RightWingBlogs, and we might shorten it to the even snazzier RWBM (RightWingButtMonkey) (n/t) - Davin L. - 3/10/2004 11:17:38 PM
        
        Is that one of those "the nature of the source invalidates the argument" things? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 12:12:24 AM
        
        Ripping off someone elses online ramble and mining it for rhetoric is not a 'source', its parroting. - Davin L. - 3/11/2004 12:22:47 AM

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