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re: Where the line is drawn

Nick Hoffman — 5/14/2004 2:19:31 PM (archived)

"what if I had someone in custody who knew where a nuclear weapon was somewhere in New York?"

What if you thought you had such a person, but turned to be wrong, AFTER you'd used the thumscrews on him?

What if you had to murder his children in fron of him to get him to confess to something he hadn't in fact done?

What if even that didn't work and you had to rape his wife and burn down his house and kill his family, and he still didn't talk...

What if he wasn't the right guy, after all that. (Odds are, he'd tell you any story you wanted, after all that, but would it help you, or your cause?)

Vigilante justice only works if you can guarantee your intelligence.

The Moral High Ground is a prickly and uncomfortable position. You have to earn it, noit just squat on it.

And it shifts beneath your feet...

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Questions I'd like to see answered: - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2004 7:37:22 PM
- re: Questions I'd like to see answered: - Nick Hoffman - 5/9/2004 4:04:46 PM
  - Where the line is drawn - Tom Brosz - 5/10/2004 1:18:15 AM
    - We chose this war. It wasn't forced on us. - Robert - 5/14/2004 5:07:44 PM
    - re: Where the line is drawn - Nick Hoffman - 5/14/2004 2:19:31 PM
      - Yes. And what if - alcaray - 5/27/2004 9:31:50 PM
        
        "Following Geneva protects our troops too." Bat guano. - Tom Brosz - 5/27/2004 10:06:32 PM
        
        'Nother old-thread-punji-pit. Love that sinking feeling. (n/t) - alcaray - 5/27/2004 9:36:59 PM
    - There are no nukes, Tom. No WMD. None. Zero. Read Blix. - Bowser - 5/10/2004 1:35:43 AM
      - re: Nukes was not the topic, Bowser. Read Tom . . . - D. Spires - 5/10/2004 2:40:00 AM
        
        That's why I wanted to see questions answered. - Tom Brosz - 5/10/2004 4:10:59 AM
        
        All we have are their reports, and the actions of the holding power. - Bowser - 5/10/2004 4:32:12 AM
  - Bingo! - Bowser - 5/9/2004 5:32:57 PM
- No one said they were boyscouts - Buck Galaxy - 5/9/2004 7:50:22 AM
- Amazing. - Bowser - 5/8/2004 10:36:03 PM
- re: The Comfy Chair . . . - D. Spires - 5/8/2004 8:25:32 PM
  - re: The Comfy Chair . . . - gbaikie - 5/9/2004 12:27:06 AM
    - re: Uh-huh . . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2004 1:25:01 AM
      - Whoaa, Dan - Nick Hoffman - 5/9/2004 4:08:59 PM
        
        re: Yeah, give 'em all a plate of cookies, a glass of milk, and a fond farewell . . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2004 5:08:49 PM
      - re: Uh-huh . . . - gbaikie - 5/9/2004 1:51:17 AM
        
        re: Look up FM 34-52 -- and go from there . . . (n/t) - D. Spires - 5/9/2004 2:04:29 AM
        
        re: Look up FM 34-52 -- and go from there . . . - gbaikie - 5/9/2004 3:54:21 AM
        
        re: Look up FM 34-52 -- and go from there . . . - Don - 6/6/2004 2:49:04 AM
        
        re: Choosing to misinterpret FM 34-52 is choosing to refuse the 'science' you just requeted . . . (n/t) - D. Spires - 5/9/2004 5:02:44 AM
        
        re: Choosing to misinterpret FM 34-52 is choosing to refuse the 'science' you just requeted . . . - gbaikie - 5/9/2004 6:26:32 AM
        
        re: You're completely missing it . . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2004 8:00:48 AM
        
        re: You're completely missing it . . . - gbaikie - 5/9/2004 11:36:37 AM
        
        re: I'm afraid I don't have ready numbers for you . . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2004 5:03:21 PM
        
        re: I'm afraid I don't have ready numbers for you . . . - Ger - 5/27/2004 3:02:57 AM
        
        Interrogators? - Tony - 5/27/2004 2:02:10 PM
  - re: The Comfy Chair . . . - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2004 8:34:34 PM
    - Bullshit - Buck Galaxy - 5/9/2004 7:44:43 AM
      - One case in point - Tom Brosz - 5/10/2004 5:36:03 PM
      - re: Bullshit - Tom Brosz - 5/10/2004 1:29:56 AM
        
        If you want to know what a liberal thinks of Dan's list... - alcaray - 5/11/2004 4:18:39 PM
        
        re: No, hooding prisoners does not go against the tenets of the Geneva Convention . . . - D. Spires - 5/11/2004 6:07:37 PM
        
        This is a question of contract law - alcaray - 5/11/2004 9:19:18 PM
        
        re: Absolutely correct -- however . . . - D. Spires - 5/11/2004 11:00:56 PM
        
        Long-winded reply, as punishment? - alcaray - 5/12/2004 3:48:50 PM
        
        re: 'Then what is all the hubbubb about?' - D. Spires - 5/12/2004 10:27:19 PM
        
        I am serious. And I don't get the connection. Sorry. (n/t) - alcaray - 5/12/2004 10:42:25 PM
        
        re: Well, congradulate yourself . . . - D. Spires - 5/13/2004 12:34:16 AM
        
        I'm tired of trying to make sense of your confused and off-point arguments - alcaray - 5/13/2004 10:59:31 PM

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