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re: Choosing to misinterpret FM 34-52 is choosing to refuse the 'science' you just requeted . . .

gbaikie — 5/9/2004 6:26:32 AM (archived)

I simply searched "FM 34-52", then posted a section relating to it.
I'm not aware of any interpretation being involved on my part or by any one else's.
But I will now take this opportunty give my interpretation/summary from the little I read:
It seems that at least as far miltary interrogation goes, efforts to mistreat those to be interrogated are considered counterproductive to aim of obtaining intelligence, is internationally regarded as illegal, and is against US policy and miltary law.
Though I imagine that on a battlefield, that there are situations in which due to, shall we say, "lack of resources and time" that attempting to apply such "rules" could be extremely foolish, though as general rule the use of "soft power" is very effective in winning the fight- you are more likely to get better intel handing out candy than putting bullets through skulls.

So in a control environment such a prison there should be no circumstances which would justify taking actions which would result in causing unneccesary suffering of prisoners, instead reasonable effort should made to ensure to their comfort- physcial and mental well being.

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- re: Questions I'd like to see answered: - Nick Hoffman - 5/9/2004 4:04:46 PM
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    - re: Where the line is drawn - Nick Hoffman - 5/14/2004 2:19:31 PM
      - Yes. And what if - alcaray - 5/27/2004 9:31:50 PM
        
        "Following Geneva protects our troops too." Bat guano. - Tom Brosz - 5/27/2004 10:06:32 PM
        
        'Nother old-thread-punji-pit. Love that sinking feeling. (n/t) - alcaray - 5/27/2004 9:36:59 PM
    - There are no nukes, Tom. No WMD. None. Zero. Read Blix. - Bowser - 5/10/2004 1:35:43 AM
      - re: Nukes was not the topic, Bowser. Read Tom . . . - D. Spires - 5/10/2004 2:40:00 AM
        
        That's why I wanted to see questions answered. - Tom Brosz - 5/10/2004 4:10:59 AM
        
        All we have are their reports, and the actions of the holding power. - Bowser - 5/10/2004 4:32:12 AM
  - Bingo! - Bowser - 5/9/2004 5:32:57 PM
- No one said they were boyscouts - Buck Galaxy - 5/9/2004 7:50:22 AM
- Amazing. - Bowser - 5/8/2004 10:36:03 PM
- re: The Comfy Chair . . . - D. Spires - 5/8/2004 8:25:32 PM
  - re: The Comfy Chair . . . - gbaikie - 5/9/2004 12:27:06 AM
    - re: Uh-huh . . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2004 1:25:01 AM
      - Whoaa, Dan - Nick Hoffman - 5/9/2004 4:08:59 PM
        
        re: Yeah, give 'em all a plate of cookies, a glass of milk, and a fond farewell . . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2004 5:08:49 PM
      - re: Uh-huh . . . - gbaikie - 5/9/2004 1:51:17 AM
        
        re: Look up FM 34-52 -- and go from there . . . (n/t) - D. Spires - 5/9/2004 2:04:29 AM
        
        re: Look up FM 34-52 -- and go from there . . . - gbaikie - 5/9/2004 3:54:21 AM
        
        re: Look up FM 34-52 -- and go from there . . . - Don - 6/6/2004 2:49:04 AM
        
        re: Choosing to misinterpret FM 34-52 is choosing to refuse the 'science' you just requeted . . . (n/t) - D. Spires - 5/9/2004 5:02:44 AM
        
        re: Choosing to misinterpret FM 34-52 is choosing to refuse the 'science' you just requeted . . . - gbaikie - 5/9/2004 6:26:32 AM
        
        re: You're completely missing it . . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2004 8:00:48 AM
        
        re: You're completely missing it . . . - gbaikie - 5/9/2004 11:36:37 AM
        
        re: I'm afraid I don't have ready numbers for you . . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2004 5:03:21 PM
        
        re: I'm afraid I don't have ready numbers for you . . . - Ger - 5/27/2004 3:02:57 AM
        
        Interrogators? - Tony - 5/27/2004 2:02:10 PM
  - re: The Comfy Chair . . . - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2004 8:34:34 PM
    - Bullshit - Buck Galaxy - 5/9/2004 7:44:43 AM
      - One case in point - Tom Brosz - 5/10/2004 5:36:03 PM
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        re: No, hooding prisoners does not go against the tenets of the Geneva Convention . . . - D. Spires - 5/11/2004 6:07:37 PM
        
        This is a question of contract law - alcaray - 5/11/2004 9:19:18 PM
        
        re: Absolutely correct -- however . . . - D. Spires - 5/11/2004 11:00:56 PM
        
        Long-winded reply, as punishment? - alcaray - 5/12/2004 3:48:50 PM
        
        re: 'Then what is all the hubbubb about?' - D. Spires - 5/12/2004 10:27:19 PM
        
        I am serious. And I don't get the connection. Sorry. (n/t) - alcaray - 5/12/2004 10:42:25 PM
        
        re: Well, congradulate yourself . . . - D. Spires - 5/13/2004 12:34:16 AM
        
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