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Long-winded reply, as punishment?

alcaray — 5/12/2004 3:48:50 PM (archived)

Sheesh. Sorry if I goaded you.

However, it should be noted that the Geneva Convention does not apply to non-uniformed combatants who pretend to be simple civilians (AKA local subversives and spies)

I think you may be claiming to have more knowledge about the people who this was done to (and the conditions of their capture), than you actually have. If an arguement like this is called for, then the folks in charge are free to make it.

or to prisoners captured, but not yet catalogued as official POWs.

I doubt that you can withhold Geneva protections indefinitely by deliberately not making the determination. That would be a poor excuse.

...completely legal...
Then what is all the hubbubb about? Why is Rumsfeld apologizing? Why did Bush apologize? Why the hearings?

Now, if you wish to go on and on about how terrible hooding a prisoner is and ignore...
Never was it my intention to go on and on about prisoner hooding. I was just answering Tom's rhetorical almost-question, and countering his general belief that it is whacky liberal ideas about proper treatment of prisoners (rather than reading and applying the treaties and laws that apply) that is getting us all into trouble.

What we have here is a small group of self-centered officers who really have no preferences...
I hope you are right.

I think about a 5th of the post actually showed up
Appreciate the restraint, but Dan: Stay cool. This (HZ posting) situation doesn't merit getting all hot and bothered. Heck, I'm not worth the trouble.

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Questions I'd like to see answered: - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2004 7:37:22 PM
- re: Questions I'd like to see answered: - Nick Hoffman - 5/9/2004 4:04:46 PM
  - Where the line is drawn - Tom Brosz - 5/10/2004 1:18:15 AM
    - We chose this war. It wasn't forced on us. - Robert - 5/14/2004 5:07:44 PM
    - re: Where the line is drawn - Nick Hoffman - 5/14/2004 2:19:31 PM
      - Yes. And what if - alcaray - 5/27/2004 9:31:50 PM
        
        "Following Geneva protects our troops too." Bat guano. - Tom Brosz - 5/27/2004 10:06:32 PM
        
        'Nother old-thread-punji-pit. Love that sinking feeling. (n/t) - alcaray - 5/27/2004 9:36:59 PM
    - There are no nukes, Tom. No WMD. None. Zero. Read Blix. - Bowser - 5/10/2004 1:35:43 AM
      - re: Nukes was not the topic, Bowser. Read Tom . . . - D. Spires - 5/10/2004 2:40:00 AM
        
        That's why I wanted to see questions answered. - Tom Brosz - 5/10/2004 4:10:59 AM
        
        All we have are their reports, and the actions of the holding power. - Bowser - 5/10/2004 4:32:12 AM
  - Bingo! - Bowser - 5/9/2004 5:32:57 PM
- No one said they were boyscouts - Buck Galaxy - 5/9/2004 7:50:22 AM
- Amazing. - Bowser - 5/8/2004 10:36:03 PM
- re: The Comfy Chair . . . - D. Spires - 5/8/2004 8:25:32 PM
  - re: The Comfy Chair . . . - gbaikie - 5/9/2004 12:27:06 AM
    - re: Uh-huh . . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2004 1:25:01 AM
      - Whoaa, Dan - Nick Hoffman - 5/9/2004 4:08:59 PM
        
        re: Yeah, give 'em all a plate of cookies, a glass of milk, and a fond farewell . . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2004 5:08:49 PM
      - re: Uh-huh . . . - gbaikie - 5/9/2004 1:51:17 AM
        
        re: Look up FM 34-52 -- and go from there . . . (n/t) - D. Spires - 5/9/2004 2:04:29 AM
        
        re: Look up FM 34-52 -- and go from there . . . - gbaikie - 5/9/2004 3:54:21 AM
        
        re: Look up FM 34-52 -- and go from there . . . - Don - 6/6/2004 2:49:04 AM
        
        re: Choosing to misinterpret FM 34-52 is choosing to refuse the 'science' you just requeted . . . (n/t) - D. Spires - 5/9/2004 5:02:44 AM
        
        re: Choosing to misinterpret FM 34-52 is choosing to refuse the 'science' you just requeted . . . - gbaikie - 5/9/2004 6:26:32 AM
        
        re: You're completely missing it . . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2004 8:00:48 AM
        
        re: You're completely missing it . . . - gbaikie - 5/9/2004 11:36:37 AM
        
        re: I'm afraid I don't have ready numbers for you . . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2004 5:03:21 PM
        
        re: I'm afraid I don't have ready numbers for you . . . - Ger - 5/27/2004 3:02:57 AM
        
        Interrogators? - Tony - 5/27/2004 2:02:10 PM
  - re: The Comfy Chair . . . - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2004 8:34:34 PM
    - Bullshit - Buck Galaxy - 5/9/2004 7:44:43 AM
      - One case in point - Tom Brosz - 5/10/2004 5:36:03 PM
      - re: Bullshit - Tom Brosz - 5/10/2004 1:29:56 AM
        
        If you want to know what a liberal thinks of Dan's list... - alcaray - 5/11/2004 4:18:39 PM
        
        re: No, hooding prisoners does not go against the tenets of the Geneva Convention . . . - D. Spires - 5/11/2004 6:07:37 PM
        
        This is a question of contract law - alcaray - 5/11/2004 9:19:18 PM
        
        re: Absolutely correct -- however . . . - D. Spires - 5/11/2004 11:00:56 PM
        
        Long-winded reply, as punishment? - alcaray - 5/12/2004 3:48:50 PM
        
        re: 'Then what is all the hubbubb about?' - D. Spires - 5/12/2004 10:27:19 PM
        
        I am serious. And I don't get the connection. Sorry. (n/t) - alcaray - 5/12/2004 10:42:25 PM
        
        re: Well, congradulate yourself . . . - D. Spires - 5/13/2004 12:34:16 AM
        
        I'm tired of trying to make sense of your confused and off-point arguments - alcaray - 5/13/2004 10:59:31 PM

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