Yeah, the failure of MPL could have been avoided if they used an entirely different landing system.

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Yeah, the failure of MPL could have been avoided if they used an entirely different landing system.

Robert Clark — 5/23/2004 9:12:10 PM (archived)

On the other hand the Beagle 2 would have been a success if they used the more robust airbags NASA used, with a relatively small increase in cost.

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Beage 2: As I was saying - Donald - 5/22/2004 1:10:38 AM
- a portrait .. - Daniel L - 5/24/2004 4:54:17 PM
- Predictions, anyone? How long before ESA offers competitive prizes like NASA now is? - ~tax leech - 5/23/2004 1:10:34 PM
  - re: Predictions, anyone? How long before ESA offers competitive prizes like NASA now is? - Doug Ellison - 5/27/2004 4:00:22 PM
    - Winning a contract vs. winning a competitive prize - ~tax leech - 5/27/2004 9:45:05 PM
- A Difference Overlooked - Mark Eby - 5/23/2004 5:10:01 AM
- David Whitehouse lurks the Habitable Zone. - Gary - 5/22/2004 11:01:03 PM
  - You know this for a fact? - R.L. - 5/25/2004 8:49:28 PM
    - Yes - Gary - 5/27/2004 6:43:44 AM
  - Another article about Beagle 2 - Gary - 5/23/2004 2:18:09 AM
    - Exactly on point - Donald - 5/23/2004 1:56:15 PM
      - re: Exactly on point - Chris Vancil - 5/24/2004 7:40:18 AM
        
        Standard practice is to design for the worst case scenario - Gary - 5/24/2004 3:56:38 PM
        
        Importance of feedback from protypes - dtb - 5/25/2004 3:21:55 AM
        
        re: Standard practice is to design for the worst case scenario - Chris Vancil - 5/24/2004 8:52:16 PM
        
        How to Lower the bar and increase science success probability - Gary - 5/25/2004 4:46:42 AM
        
        re: I would like to see weather stations and seismometers all over the surface of Mars...either of which need to move around much. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 5/25/2004 8:57:40 AM
        
        What's their EDL system? - Gary - 5/25/2004 4:08:55 PM
        
        re: What's their EDL system? - Chris Vancil - 5/25/2004 8:47:30 PM
        
        re: What's their EDL system? - Doug Ellison - 5/26/2004 9:13:20 AM
        
        re: More on NetLander - Chris Vancil - 5/25/2004 9:13:21 PM
        
        Great idea - dtb - 5/25/2004 5:25:37 AM
        
        Build to Print - Gary - 5/25/2004 6:45:29 AM
        
        re: Build to Print - Nick Hoffman - 5/26/2004 5:33:17 AM
        
        I'm only a humble engineer.... - Gary - 5/26/2004 3:58:49 PM
- don't hold your breath for a refund (n/t) - traveling geek - 5/22/2004 4:45:40 AM
- Sounds like what they said about Mars Polar Lander. (n/t) - Robert Clark - 5/22/2004 4:44:54 AM
  - Let the space organization that does not have at least one pile of multimillion dollar junk littering the Martian surface, cast the first stone. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 5/22/2004 7:11:03 AM
    - re: Let the space organization that does not have at least one pile of multimillion dollar junk littering the Martian surface, cast the first stone. - Doug Ellison - 5/22/2004 8:40:49 AM
      - A big difference - Donald - 5/22/2004 2:11:07 PM
        
        Yes, there are some differencess... - Nathan Koren - 5/22/2004 11:21:10 PM
        
        re: A big difference - Doug Ellison - 5/22/2004 3:10:29 PM
        
        re: Beagle 2 was 'too great a risk' - Fatcat - 5/22/2004 6:14:52 PM
        
        You're missing the point - Donald - 5/22/2004 3:33:55 PM
        
        re: You're missing the point - Chris Vancil - 5/24/2004 8:58:54 AM
        
        How much extra would Beagle 2 have cost if they used the NASA airbag sytem? - Robert Clark - 5/22/2004 9:52:19 PM
        
        Many space scientists said MPL's landing system was doomed to failure BEFORE it arrived at Mars. (n/t) - Robert Clark - 5/22/2004 9:05:42 PM
        
        re: You're missing the point - Chris Vancil - 5/22/2004 8:26:56 PM
        
        re: You're missing the point - Donald - 5/23/2004 2:28:33 PM
        
        re: You're missing the point - Chris Vancil - 5/24/2004 8:07:08 AM
        
        Yeah, the failure of MPL could have been avoided if they used an entirely different landing system. - Robert Clark - 5/23/2004 9:12:10 PM
        
        re: Yeah, the failure of MPL could have been avoided if they used an entirely different landing system. - Doug Ellison - 5/23/2004 10:18:32 PM
        
        Are you sure just the NASA airbags without the retrorockets would have exceeded the mass constraints? (n/t) - Robert Clark - 5/24/2004 2:51:05 AM
        
        re: Are you sure just the NASA airbags without the retrorockets would have exceeded the mass constraints? - Doug Ellison - 5/24/2004 9:06:05 AM
        
        re: You're missing the point - Doug Ellison - 5/23/2004 10:10:42 AM
        
        You might be right. - Tom Brosz - 5/22/2004 4:01:26 PM

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