Britain's civil war was about....

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Britain's civil war was about....

Tony — 12/9/2004 9:42:40 PM (archived)

2 centuries before our first real election
:-D

That could be a valid point - we were unexpectedly successful in finishing major combat.
didn't necessarily have the people in place at the the right time.
I think though, that the people we did put in place were not necessarily in the right places....
We also did have time to plan.
Somewhere in the spectrum of your "plans go awry in war" and my "they're incompetent" lies the truth. :-)

The only pro-war predictions I (maybe selectively) recollect were very rosy indeed, some even mentioning roses.
The only serious* anti-war predictions I paid attention to were the "we're going to breed a whole new bunch of terrorists" has pretty much panned out as anticipated. I also thought the stakes for tri-partite civil war were much higher than they currently seem to be.

*Non-serious scenarios included:
Bogged down and effectively countered by Iraqi army.
Blood-for-oil.
Viet Nam 2.
Use of WMD.

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Rumsfeld makes excuses for administration's incompetence - Donald - 12/9/2004 1:54:40 AM
- Rumsfeld makes invalid excuses for administration's incompetence - Publius - 12/10/2004 3:12:22 PM
- So is the armour adequate or not? - LJ - 12/9/2004 2:37:35 PM
  - re: Maybe, Maybe not. - Scott Evil - 12/9/2004 3:25:57 PM
    - If he was lying.......why the huge cheer? (n/t) - Tony - 12/9/2004 4:52:13 PM
      - It's been a real issue. - Tom Brosz - 12/9/2004 5:44:19 PM
        
        Not trying to pick a fight (for once today), genuinely curious. - Tony - 12/9/2004 8:24:53 PM
        
        You know, now that you mention it... - Tom Brosz - 12/9/2004 9:13:55 PM
        
        Britain's civil war was about.... - Tony - 12/9/2004 9:42:40 PM
        
        "Breeding terrorists" myth - Tom Brosz - 12/10/2004 12:44:30 AM
        
        So sorry, thought terrorist was synonymous to insurgent to you guys... (n/t) - tony - 12/10/2004 3:58:21 AM
        
        Shouldn't be. - Tom Brosz - 12/10/2004 5:03:20 AM
        
        Plans going awry - Tom Brosz - 12/10/2004 12:33:03 AM
        
        That may be, but all things considered, Turkey probably best left out of it. (n/t) - tony - 12/10/2004 3:56:47 AM
        
        And Jordan, And Egypt, And Syria..... (n/t) - Publius - 12/10/2004 10:41:29 PM
        
        You could make a good case for that. - Tom Brosz - 12/10/2004 5:06:21 AM
        
        Sullivan says it better than me - Tony - 12/9/2004 6:29:22 PM
        
        Some articles on this. - Tom Brosz - 12/9/2004 7:34:07 PM
        
        BTW - Tony - 12/9/2004 8:00:25 PM
        
        re: BTW - Tom Brosz - 12/9/2004 8:31:31 PM
        
        Rumsfeld's actual quote - Tony - 12/9/2004 8:42:56 PM
        
        "the army of desire" Good SF title. (n/t) - alcaray - 12/9/2004 9:58:06 PM
        
        Sounds more like Gore Vidal to me - but it's a great title (n/t) - Fox - 12/11/2004 12:28:16 AM
        
        That's the part that wins the hearts and minds - Tony - 12/9/2004 9:59:47 PM
        
        Gee, Tony, Don't you think poor ol' toms backside has had enough yet? - Davin L. - 12/9/2004 8:05:52 PM
        
        Not one bit - Tony - 12/9/2004 8:09:48 PM
        
        One last hint - Tony - 12/9/2004 7:50:57 PM
        
        "Arf" indeed. - Tom Brosz - 12/9/2004 7:02:47 PM
        
        Arf Arf Arf. - Tony - 12/9/2004 7:35:55 PM
        
        Arf - Tom Brosz - 12/9/2004 7:56:53 PM
        
        Personally - Tony - 12/9/2004 8:07:32 PM
        
        re: Personally - Tom Brosz - 12/9/2004 8:27:02 PM
        
        The brilliant press - Tony - 12/9/2004 8:37:36 PM
        
        Actually... - Tom Brosz - 12/9/2004 9:24:08 PM
        
        Like I said - Tony - 12/9/2004 9:56:16 PM
        
        "inaccurate"? After you finished twisting what he said, parts of it do sound inaccurate. (n/t) - alcaray - 12/9/2004 7:17:30 PM
- Once again you prove your ignorance of military history - Larry J - 12/9/2004 2:28:16 PM
  - Hey, when you start the war you have only yourself to blame if you are not prepared. (n/t) - Publius - 12/10/2004 3:48:04 PM
    - Yeah, if the enemy would be so kind as to stick to our plans - Larry J - 12/10/2004 5:57:51 PM
  - Once again Larry uses his favorite line (n/t) - alcaray - 12/9/2004 4:52:38 PM
    - Too bad it's so true so often (n/t) - Larry J - 12/9/2004 7:28:15 PM
  - Exactly on point. - ebnelson - 12/9/2004 3:34:02 PM
  - But, but, but.... - Donald - 12/9/2004 3:03:16 PM
    - Once again... - Larry J - 12/9/2004 7:35:33 PM
    - re: But, but, but.... - ebnelson - 12/9/2004 3:28:21 PM
  - re: Once again you prove your ignorance of military history - LJ - 12/9/2004 2:39:39 PM
    - You improvise, you adapt, you overcome - Larry J - 12/9/2004 3:09:38 PM
      - IEDs - Tony - 12/9/2004 8:28:56 PM
        
        re: IEDs - Larry J - 12/9/2004 10:15:20 PM
        
        10, 5, 2, 1 - tony - 12/10/2004 1:51:41 AM
        
        Basic physics - Larry J - 12/10/2004 2:46:41 PM
      - Thanks for all the info - Tom Brosz - 12/9/2004 4:39:41 PM
    - Didn't you know? - Tony - 12/9/2004 3:04:10 PM
- Looking like another MSM soundbite attack. - ebnelson - 12/9/2004 1:04:51 PM
- Meanwhile: 1,276 - Donald - 12/9/2004 1:57:56 AM
  - And: Iraqis May Extend Election Amid Violence - Donald - 12/9/2004 2:10:15 AM
    - So eventually they get to vote.......... - Lindy - 12/9/2004 5:15:52 AM
      - re: They will never stop - Scott Evil - 12/9/2004 4:07:53 PM
        
        Solution to Silliness - Lindy - 12/9/2004 5:23:52 PM

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