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Sorry Bowser, no copyright infringement intended.

Which of us is inaccurate?

Me - It's not a case of adapting quickly - it's a case of not adapting policy period.

You - Obviously policy on this has been adapted, often radically. I know some of the companies that were ramped up for the armor production, and when the changes took place. In some cases over a year ago. Reporters don't know jack shit about issues of production lines, the delays in production of ballistic steel and special ceramic or composite armor, or any of the real issues. Neither does Sullivan.

Issues of production lines? We've been there 2 frigging years? How long do you want to wait?
If policy has been adapted why are military personnel still using scrap for armour?
Inaccuracy rating : Me - 5 points. should have said period, should have said enough.
IR You - 5 points for not understanding the concept of time.

Of course, maybe we should have waited another five years or so to invade Iraq. Wait for more troops to sign on, wait for all the supplies to be at top strength, and wait for everything to be perfect. We could have made Saddam to promise not to prepare in the meantime.
Dont be so obtuse. Let me guess, it's all Kerry's fault for voting against the 87 billion.
Are you using the same excuse for the lack of Kevlar at the beginning?

As to the notion of using IEDs as bombs under roads.... Hint: These used to be called mines. Don't try to consuse the issue with different terminology.

They aren't mines. True anti-armor mines are not easy to find in Iraq caches. These are explosive charges, sometimes more powerful than existing mines, assembled from old caches of explosives.

A bomb in or at the side of a road. Sounds like a mine to me.
IR - Me - nul points
You - 10 for trying to pull a Larry on me.

Also, you're ignoring where the explosives used in these IEDs came from. another hint: Not the Syria, Iran or the Oil Ministry building......

If you are talking about the plastic explosives missing from that one depot, no explosives of that type have been found in IEDs to date. Most are made from old shells and other munitions cached all over Iraq in those months prior to the war while the U.S. was wanking uselessly at the United Nations.

I didn't say they were explicit high explosives at all. Don't put words in my mouth.
I am saying that the munitions dumps were not contained in the early days.
I am saying that one of the reasons they were not adequately contained is because not enough of a priority was given to them.
Now that could be hindsight talking, (and yes I know there is a huge amount of logistic limitations here also) or it could be that the administration did not expect there to be any insurgency in the aftermath. Remember Shock and Awe closely followed by Hearts and Minds. and that my dear is a prime example of poor planning.

IR - Me - nada points
You - Zero, but you missed the point, so another 10 for diversion and distortion

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