P.S. on source caveats:

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P.S. on source caveats:

Tom Brosz — 2/17/2005 2:15:23 AM (archived)

An astonishing number of sources on "we're running out of oil" track back to one guy: Colin J. Campbell. Check it out yourself.

This doesn't make him wrong automatically--he is a geologist--but it raises a red flag.

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Energy projections, PBR reactors, transition times - Davin :. - 2/16/2005 11:05:55 PM
- Old Chestnuts and New Times - Nick Hoffman - 2/20/2005 6:56:52 AM
  - Thanks! - Tom Brosz - 2/20/2005 7:45:58 AM
    - Not that I agree with your long-term solutions... - Tom Brosz - 2/20/2005 7:50:12 AM
      - Cabal... - Nick Hoffman - 2/20/2005 8:23:52 AM
        
        re: Cabal... - Tom Brosz - 2/21/2005 5:05:39 AM
        
        Excellent posts, Nick - thank you (n/t) - Fox - 2/20/2005 3:17:48 PM
- And then there's this. - Lee - 2/19/2005 7:47:23 AM
- Fracing. - jms - 2/18/2005 5:28:37 PM
- Talk about synchronicity- anyopne catch the daily show today? (n/t) - Davin :. - 2/18/2005 4:27:07 AM
  - coal = geology's wheat ? - jms - 2/18/2005 8:22:47 PM
    - Yeah, I bet 10-1 the guy was an economist - Davin :. - 2/18/2005 9:47:31 PM
- There is also always Methane Hydrates - Davin :. - 2/17/2005 3:56:00 PM
  - re: There is also always Methane Hydrates - gbaikie - 2/18/2005 5:31:48 AM
- Wrong! You wrote: "Nuclear is the ONLY possible scalable technology out there" - David F Mayer - 2/17/2005 11:02:21 AM
  - (1) We have been through all of this before - Davin :. - 2/17/2005 2:56:36 PM
    - OK. We shall see what is the bigger producer of electric power in 2025. - David F Mayer - 2/17/2005 5:38:06 PM
      - Are there any Sea Solar plants up and running yet? (n/t) - ebnelson - 2/18/2005 8:52:09 PM
      - Okay, sounds fine to me. - Davin :. - 2/17/2005 7:23:53 PM
      - Go for it! - Tom Brosz - 2/17/2005 6:04:57 PM
        
        Singing my song - jms - 2/17/2005 11:14:36 PM
        
        The Goddamn Luddites - David F Mayer - 2/17/2005 9:39:51 PM
        
        Vertebrate mass - think first - LJ - 2/18/2005 1:38:16 AM
        
        WRONG!! Cattle are NOT vertebrates, as everyone knows they are insects, and furthermore they weigh, on average, about six ounces. The worlwide population of cattle is about 15... I know this because… - DFM THE SECOND - 2/18/2005 8:49:07 AM
        
        And sheep are INvertebrate fuzzy sea-cucumbers, we were going to use them to soak up the water splashed by throwing the cattle into the ocean... (also let me add that the MOAB is a 'surgical strike w… - D--- F------ -Moron - 2/18/2005 9:19:28 AM
        
        Throw insects in there and see what you get. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 2/18/2005 1:49:22 AM
        
        The secret trick word is "vertebrates." - Tom Brosz - 2/18/2005 1:03:58 AM
        
        Of course. The Insects rule the animal kingdom. - David F Mayer - 2/18/2005 5:17:33 PM
        
        I think Tom referred to the ocean, David. (n/t) - alcaray - 2/18/2005 5:57:58 PM
        
        Not specifically. Was making the point that vertebrates are a minority of oxygen breathers. - Tom Brosz - 2/18/2005 10:19:06 PM
        
        Really? You used the word "where". (n/t) - alcaray - 2/19/2005 3:35:28 PM
        
        Hmmm... - Tom Brosz - 2/19/2005 5:32:33 PM
        
        Made perfect sense that way, too. - alcaray - 2/20/2005 1:36:38 AM
- This is a thread that would benefit from Nick Hoffman - ebnelson - 2/17/2005 7:02:43 AM
  - Thats the truth! - Davin :. - 2/17/2005 2:29:17 PM
    - Nick avoids CE, try OT. (n/t) - jms - 2/17/2005 8:24:35 PM
- You seem to write off Oil Sands pretty quickly - ebnelson - 2/17/2005 7:00:26 AM
  - re: You seem to write off Oil Sands pretty quickly - Davin :. - 2/17/2005 3:06:09 PM
- Please enlighten me - Gary - 2/17/2005 6:48:59 AM
  - A good article from the Colorado School of Mines - Larry J - 2/17/2005 2:55:45 PM
    - re:If you are ever camping in NW Colorado - jms - 2/17/2005 9:14:43 PM
    - Supposably the mine tailings are an issue - Gary - 2/17/2005 4:14:46 PM
      - Speaking from knowledge... - Nick Hoffman - 2/20/2005 7:22:41 AM
      - The article mentioned mine tailings - Larry J - 2/17/2005 7:46:05 PM
    - Cool Source - Davin :. - 2/17/2005 3:16:02 PM
      - I would also be concerned about possible contaimination... - Larry J - 2/17/2005 7:32:06 PM
        
        a good point as well - Davin :. - 2/18/2005 2:54:08 PM
  - I'll do what I can! - Davin :. - 2/17/2005 2:27:07 PM
- Peaked, or close to it, - jms - 2/17/2005 3:01:30 AM
  - jms: you remind me why I stick to this place - Davin :. - 2/17/2005 4:10:19 AM
    - Something that would make everyone here happy: discovering uranium on Mars! ;) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 2/17/2005 6:30:13 PM
      - re: sulfides would be cool. - jms - 2/17/2005 8:25:59 PM
    - Thorium, eh? - jms - 2/17/2005 4:42:33 AM
      - re: Thorium, eh? - Davin :. - 2/17/2005 3:55:02 PM
        
        100 bucks a claim a year. - jms - 2/17/2005 8:00:53 PM
      - re: Thorium, eh? - gbaikie - 2/17/2005 7:29:35 AM
        
        re: Thorium, eh? - jms - 2/17/2005 7:49:00 PM
      - What causes that? - Gary - 2/17/2005 6:45:43 AM
        
        re: What causes Thorium Vein deposits: - jms - 2/17/2005 7:42:31 PM
        
        Thank you (n/t) - Gary - 2/18/2005 4:17:25 PM
  - Uranium - Tom Brosz - 2/17/2005 3:39:39 AM
- re: Energy projections - Tom Brosz - 2/17/2005 12:22:11 AM
  - Problem with you is you don't listen - Tony - 2/17/2005 6:34:21 PM
    - re: Exploratory - Tom Brosz - 2/17/2005 6:49:03 PM
      - 3 part answer - Tony - 2/17/2005 7:46:49 PM
        
        re: 3 part answer - Tom Brosz - 2/17/2005 8:33:05 PM
        
        Alaska? - Tony - 2/17/2005 8:40:57 PM
        
        re: new areas - Tom Brosz - 2/18/2005 1:21:21 AM
        
        It's not just aesthetics - Tony - 2/18/2005 5:55:00 PM
        
        California Beaches - Nick Hoffman - 2/20/2005 7:54:36 AM
        
        Tom can't think outside the box. - Davin :. - 2/17/2005 9:44:03 PM
        
        grrrr. lets see if the ascii art comes out better here - Davin :. - 2/17/2005 9:46:09 PM
        
        the PRE tag is your friend (n/t) - Tony - 2/17/2005 9:47:27 PM
        
        :-p *pthhhht!* - DL - 2/17/2005 10:05:16 PM
        
        You're working too hard. - Tom Brosz - 2/18/2005 1:08:19 AM
        
        LOL!!!! - Davin :. - 2/18/2005 2:16:36 AM
        
        re: LOL!!!! - Tom Brosz - 2/18/2005 2:44:02 AM
        
        re: :-p *pthhhht!* - Tony - 2/17/2005 10:24:08 PM
        
        notepad combined with pre tag is your best friend (n/t) - SDG - 2/18/2005 8:58:33 PM
        
        Gee, Tony.... Why the long face? - DL - 2/17/2005 10:48:51 PM
      - The answer is... - Tom Brosz - 2/17/2005 6:55:03 PM
        
        That's not the answer - Tony - 2/17/2005 7:52:24 PM
  - Renewable Alternatives To Oil Viable At $60/barrel - Mark Eby - 2/17/2005 2:22:59 AM
    - The projections that I have seen are a little higher, say $100 per barrel - David F Mayer - 2/18/2005 5:31:06 PM
    - Biodiesel - ebnelson - 2/17/2005 7:05:20 AM
    - re: Alternatives - Tom Brosz - 2/17/2005 3:38:28 AM
  - the 'running out for many many years' myth - Davin :. - 2/17/2005 1:04:57 AM
    - Uh No - Mark Eby - 2/17/2005 2:31:06 AM
      - see reply to tom above (n/t) - Tony - 2/17/2005 6:36:04 PM
        
        like that's a useful direction (n/t) - ID - 2/18/2005 3:02:55 PM
        
        it was when I made it (n/t) - PPD - 2/18/2005 3:48:01 PM
      - There is a GIGO issue in this - ebnelson - 2/17/2005 7:10:28 AM
      - 'Uh No!' Sounds like a teenager. Should I go: 'Well Duh!' back to you? - Davin L. - 2/17/2005 4:06:13 AM
        
        3 (n/t) - Mark Eby - 2/20/2005 8:13:57 PM
        
        That doesn't include the effect of China's economic emergence - Gary - 2/17/2005 4:24:27 PM
        
        Yeah, you are most likely right - Davin :. - 2/17/2005 4:52:21 PM
    - re: the 'running out for many many years' myth - Tom Brosz - 2/17/2005 2:00:36 AM
      - P.S. on source caveats: - Tom Brosz - 2/17/2005 2:15:23 AM

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