Freedom is messy.

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Freedom is messy.

Tom Brosz — 10/20/2005 3:46:17 AM (archived)

The free market bugs a lot of people, but the alternative of people deciding on their own what they're going to offer and receive in a free trade always breaks down to "who gets to decide?"

A Committee of Worth in Washington deciding what everyone gets paid is not exactly a pinnacle of human spirituality either.

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"Jobs no American will take" - Sure! - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/19/2005 2:51:08 AM
- We need Real Guest worker legislation. - Scott Evil - 10/21/2005 9:00:47 PM
- "Jobs no American will take" - Lindy - 10/19/2005 10:37:16 PM
  - Can't even do that! - CARL - 10/21/2005 1:29:31 PM
- This is the one of the two sour spots I have with the president. - REB - 10/19/2005 6:48:48 PM
- So change the jobs - Robert - 10/19/2005 5:47:51 PM
  - Important points - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/19/2005 9:53:30 PM
    - "The wall works" - nick hoffman - 10/20/2005 4:15:18 AM
      - While it was up, the Berlin Wall worked pretty damn well. - Tom Brosz - 10/20/2005 5:39:39 AM
        
        It wasn't the wall that worked so much as the mine field next to it. - Scott Evil - 10/21/2005 9:05:01 PM
        
        re: While it was up, the Berlin Wall worked pretty damn well. - nick hoffman - 10/20/2005 9:01:18 AM
        
        You bet it was a stretch. - Tom Brosz - 10/20/2005 4:23:03 PM
    - re: Important points - Robert - 10/20/2005 1:03:46 AM
  - What makes you think illegals are getting minimum wage? - Tom Brosz - 10/19/2005 6:35:18 PM
    - Tangential - Robert - 10/19/2005 10:51:05 PM
      - re: Tangential - Tom Brosz - 10/20/2005 3:12:53 AM
        
        And no, the Mexicans aren't going to walk around the wall. - Tom Brosz - 10/20/2005 3:41:39 AM
        
        We had this problem in Australia... - nick hoffman - 10/20/2005 4:57:02 AM
        
        Thanks for this Nick - Daniel - 10/22/2005 7:08:37 AM
        
        Dilution. - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/21/2005 12:24:13 AM
        
        Outstanding post. (n/t) - et - 10/20/2005 9:16:56 PM
        
        Legal vs illegal - Larry J - 10/20/2005 4:59:45 PM
        
        So how much carrying capacity do you think Australia has? - Tom Brosz - 10/20/2005 5:50:37 AM
        
        carrying capacity - nick hoffman - 10/20/2005 9:05:39 AM
      - The Wall - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/19/2005 11:14:06 PM
- A more accurate statement would be... - Larry J - 10/19/2005 1:08:24 PM
  - Chain reaction - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/19/2005 10:19:19 PM
  - It's possible that American agriculture would go the way of American textiles - alcaray - 10/19/2005 5:29:23 PM
  - An accurate statement - Robert - 10/19/2005 5:11:51 PM
    - One essential problem... - Larry J - 10/19/2005 6:55:27 PM
      - re: One essential problem... - Robert - 10/19/2005 11:22:32 PM
        
        re: One essential problem... - Larry J - 10/20/2005 1:49:55 PM
        
        Freedom is messy. - Tom Brosz - 10/20/2005 3:46:17 AM
        
        Should be "alternative to people" (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/20/2005 3:46:48 AM
      - Correction - Larry J - 10/19/2005 8:28:20 PM
    - re: An accurate statement - Tom Brosz - 10/19/2005 6:52:01 PM
      - re: An accurate statement - Robert - 10/19/2005 11:52:26 PM
        
        re: An accurate statement - Tom Brosz - 10/20/2005 3:26:17 AM
    - You're not alone in this kind of thinking. - Tom Brosz - 10/19/2005 6:39:07 PM
- You summed up the situation perfectly. - Lee - 10/19/2005 5:55:30 AM
  - We will not wage "physical" war with Mexico - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/19/2005 10:37:13 PM
  - "but far too many of our citizens would be unwilling to engage in a war. " - R.L. - 10/19/2005 6:18:55 AM
    - Just curious... - R.L. - 10/19/2005 9:14:23 AM
      - Actually RL, I was refering to people like you. - Lee - 10/19/2005 7:19:32 PM
        
        re: "well we stole it from Mexico, so they do have a claim to it" - alcaray - 10/19/2005 11:22:14 PM
        
        And they stole it from the Spanish, who stole it from the Native Americans. - REB - 10/20/2005 1:43:44 PM
        
        Do some homework. - Lee - 10/20/2005 5:40:21 AM
        
        Man I live in the LA area. - alcaray - 10/20/2005 3:02:39 PM
        
        No, your head is stuck in the sand - Lee - 10/20/2005 7:22:14 PM
        
        How many Mexican do you know? - FrankC - 10/21/2005 8:36:29 PM
        
        The Mexicans are invading!!!!!! - alcaray - 10/20/2005 8:41:11 PM
        
        And not one word against the links I posted. - Lee - 10/21/2005 5:36:52 AM
        
        Rense and Newsmax I will not bother to look at, sorry. - alcaray - 10/21/2005 2:59:26 PM
        
        Rense is leftwing and Newsmax is rightwing. They both agree on this. (n/t) - Lee - 10/22/2005 2:15:14 AM
        
        They are already in Texas. - REB - 10/20/2005 9:13:08 PM
        
        Ya, you know. - alcaray - 10/20/2005 11:01:54 PM
        
        Do you really want to go there? - Sam F. - 10/21/2005 6:36:28 AM
        
        Not everything is politics - alcaray - 10/21/2005 2:54:46 PM
        
        Referring as well. (n/t) - Lee - 10/19/2005 7:20:42 PM
- "Jobs no American will take" A load of crap. - Tom Brosz - 10/19/2005 3:21:05 AM
- re: "Jobs no American will take" -link - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/19/2005 2:54:14 AM

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